Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Threviel]

Sorry, thought your was in response to my post preceding it and indicated that what I posted had you flabbergasted.

[Gups]

Seems quite clear what he is saying - many Mulsims are anti-semitic.

[The Minsky Moment]

Weird.  Lubavitchers in NYC dug a secret tunnel complex under their synagogue, rioted when the city tried to dismantle.

Turns out this was an internal dispute between Chabad leadership and a faction of messianic students, who believe that Rabbi Schneerson was the messiah.  The latter sought to "expand" the late Rabbi's HQ and the leadership sought to shut it down.

[Josephus]

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.

[Josquius]

Sorry, thought your was in response to my post preceding it and indicated that what I posted had you flabbergasted.

It was to you and raz because I don't get why you were saying that in response to me pointing out nazis these days tend to be pretty pro Israel since it's Muslims they hate.

[Valmy]

Weird.  Lubavitchers in NYC dug a secret tunnel complex under their synagogue, rioted when the city tried to dismantle.

Turns out this was an internal dispute between Chabad leadership and a faction of messianic students, who believe that Rabbi Schneerson was the messiah.  The latter sought to "expand" the late Rabbi's HQ and the leadership sought to shut it down.

Well that's ridiculous. Everybody knows the Messiah was Sabbatai Zevi.

[Razgovory]

Sorry, thought your was in response to my post preceding it and indicated that what I posted had you flabbergasted.

It was to you and raz because I don't get why you were saying that in response to me pointing out nazis these days tend to be pretty pro Israel since it's Muslims they hate.

Well, it's not true.  You should take a look at what Nazis say.  They really don't like Israel.  You have guys like David Duke going to Syria to rant on about Zionism.

[Josquius]

Sorry, thought your was in response to my post preceding it and indicated that what I posted had you flabbergasted.

It was to you and raz because I don't get why you were saying that in response to me pointing out nazis these days tend to be pretty pro Israel since it's Muslims they hate.

Well, it's not true.  You should take a look at what Nazis say.  They really don't like Israel.  You have guys like David Duke going to Syria to rant on about Zionism.

You really ought to look at what nazis say and do.
The recent crap in London with the remembrance day protests - guess who it was looking to stir shit and "protect" monuments, look who was arrested for trying to attend a march against anti semitism when specifically told he was unwelcome.

[Threviel]

In my experience the only ones I've ever met in real life that were anti-semites came from muslim cultural environments, Iranians mostly. I don't think I've ever talked to a middle easterner about this kind of stuff without them being anti-semite in one way or the other.

And I have met quite a few nazis, they only rave about immigrants in general and muslims in particular. Sure, they might masturbate wildly to Hitler and company, but when speaking about the present context they don't talk much about Jews.

I misunderstood what you were saying Jos, sorry.

[Razgovory]

Sorry, thought your was in response to my post preceding it and indicated that what I posted had you flabbergasted.

It was to you and raz because I don't get why you were saying that in response to me pointing out nazis these days tend to be pretty pro Israel since it's Muslims they hate.

Well, it's not true.  You should take a look at what Nazis say.  They really don't like Israel.  You have guys like David Duke going to Syria to rant on about Zionism.

You really ought to look at what nazis say and do.
The recent crap in London with the remembrance day protests - guess who it was looking to stir shit and "protect" monuments, look who was arrested for trying to attend a march against anti semitism when specifically told he was unwelcome.

I don't know, Jeremy Corbyn?  Some other Labor party member?  I don't know British antisemites that well.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7zx5a/neo-nazis-hijack-pro-palestine-protest-mike-enoch

The group was led by Mike Peinovich, a long-time white nationalist personality who previously used the alias "Mike Enoch," and was one of the architects of the deadly 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.

Israel "is a pure genocidal state, make no mistake," Peinovich told rally attendees over a PA system. "We Americans have been snookered into supporting [Israel] by Jewish control of our banks, our media, and our politicians, but we have to say enough and rise up as a people."

Last weekend, members of NSC-131, a hardcore neo-Nazi group in New England, gathered on an overpass in Saugus, Massachusetts, outside of Boston, and hung banners and signs saying things like "Free Palestine" as well as "No More Wars for Israel," and "End Jewish Terror."

Earlier in October, dozens of masked members of National Socialist Florida, another hardcore neo-Nazi group, assembled along the side of a road in Lady Lake, Florida, about 50 miles outside of Orlando. They had similar signs to their NSC-131 counterparts, plus others with messages like "Our Tax Dollars Fund Israeli Bloodlust" and "The Great Replacement is Real." National Socialist Florida put together a slickly-edited video of their demonstration which they shared on their social media platforms. "America and Palestine share a similar fate," text in the video reads. "REPLACEMENT."

In Missoula, the neo-Nazis later tried to align themselves with the 100-strong pro-Palestine demonstration that was taking place that day at the Missoula County Courthouse, according to a report by the Daily Montanan. As pro-Palestine demonstrators chanted "free, free Palestine," one of the neo-Nazis shouted through a megaphone, "the Jews have to be stopped if you want to free Palestine."

https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/hate-united-neo-nazi-accelerationist-support-for-hamas/
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5601134,00.html
https://www.sfchronicle.com/us-world/article/nazi-antisemitism-israel-hamas-18476691.php
https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/white-supremacist-leaders-applaud-hamas-and-violence-against-israelis
https://www.jpost.com/international/neo-nazis-wave-palestinian-flags-in-protest-against-israel-556416

I don't have time to post quotes from each article.  I need to go to the store.

[OttoVonBismarck]

In my experience the only ones I've ever met in real life that were anti-semites came from muslim cultural environments, Iranians mostly. I don't think I've ever talked to a middle easterner about this kind of stuff without them being anti-semite in one way or the other.

And I have met quite a few nazis, they only rave about immigrants in general and muslims in particular. Sure, they might masturbate wildly to Hitler and company, but when speaking about the present context they don't talk much about Jews.

I misunderstood what you were saying Jos, sorry.

My experiences are similar to this, while I don't really open the topic in discussions with Muslims, and I don't talk to Muslims a ton--basically everyone I have ever heard utter real antisemitism in my personal life was a Muslim person ranting about Israel and crossing over into outright Jew bashing.

Also like you, my experience has been typical Neo-Nazis, despite their origin, rarely seem to talk that much about Jews, they talk far more about Muslims and other people they associate with immigration.

[Josquius]

Sorry, thought your was in response to my post preceding it and indicated that what I posted had you flabbergasted.

It was to you and raz because I don't get why you were saying that in response to me pointing out nazis these days tend to be pretty pro Israel since it's Muslims they hate.

Well, it's not true.  You should take a look at what Nazis say.  They really don't like Israel.  You have guys like David Duke going to Syria to rant on about Zionism.

You really ought to look at what nazis say and do.
The recent crap in London with the remembrance day protests - guess who it was looking to stir shit and "protect" monuments, look who was arrested for trying to attend a march against anti semitism when specifically told he was unwelcome.

I don't know, Jeremy Corbyn?  Some other Labor party member?  I don't know British antisemites that well.

The far right raz. It was the far right.

Why the fuck would anti semites want to be in a march against anti semitism?

Against your 10 guys in a bar fringe nuts in America you've the actual policy of far right parties of note.

https://www.ukip.org/israel-s-fight-is-our-fight

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/06/marine-le-pens-support-of-israel-seen-as-move-away-from-partys-antisemitic-past

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-743376

[Razgovory]

Okay, you really need to work on your language.  You said Nazi.  LePen is not a Nazi.  The UKIP isn't Nazi.  Nazi does not mean "people that Josquius disagrees with".

[Savonarola]

And not a moment too soon:

'We're still San Francisco:' Board of Supervisors votes in favor of cease-fire resolution in Gaza

PEACE FOR OUR TIME!

[Josquius]

Okay, you really need to work on your language.  You said Nazi.  LePen is not a Nazi.  The UKIP isn't Nazi.  Nazi does not mean "people that Josquius disagrees with".

Nazi, fascist, far right. In some contexts where nuance is unimportant these words are interchangeable.

Also the first post that triggered you never mentioned the word nazi.