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Global Warming and Rising Sea Levels

Started by Jacob, June 12, 2013, 02:06:17 PM

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Of course Wyoming shares.  Our potential disaster is for the world, just like with rising sea levels.
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Grey Fox

Have you guys heard that while Humans may  have helped global warming along & we are simply at the tail end of an Ice Age? There's evidence that they last much longer the previously estimated.
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Valmy

Quote from: Grey Fox on June 13, 2013, 09:17:41 AM
Have you guys heard that while Humans may  have helped global warming along & we are simply at the tail end of an Ice Age? There's evidence that they last much longer the previously estimated.

Yes.  Well we have noticed the temperature going upwards.  A big question was whether it was a natural increase or the result of Al Gore.
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Grey Fox

It could be both too, don't discredit that one!
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MadImmortalMan

The question I guess would be if the underlying trend or human action is the more powerful factor. Or maybe that's not really important at all and we should be thinking about whether or not it's a good idea to somehow try to keep the planet in some sort of climate stasis because it suits our purpose.


Edit: My number is 1524 meters.
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Grey Fox

How can we discuss any of that when half the world are a bunch of Religious retards that believe the world was created for US?
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merithyn

Quote from: Grey Fox on June 13, 2013, 11:26:41 AM
How can we discuss any of that when half the world are a bunch of Religious retards that believe the world was created for US?

Some of us are religious retards who believe that we were created for the world. :sleep:

That being said, I've long thought along the same lines as MiM.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: merithyn on June 13, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
Some of us are religious retards who believe that we were created for the world. :sleep:

If that is the case then that was a decision the Creator would surely want back.

Valmy

Quote from: crazy canuck on June 13, 2013, 02:35:02 PM
If that is the case then that was a decision the Creator would surely want back.

Maybe we were sent to punish the world for its sins.  Sharks were becoming prideful about their fins.
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Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 13, 2013, 11:21:47 AM
The question I guess would be if the underlying trend or human action is the more powerful factor. Or maybe that's not really important at all and we should be thinking about whether or not it's a good idea to somehow try to keep the planet in some sort of climate stasis because it suits our purpose.
Well, we know the sun is not producing more output.  We know we ain't close to the sun.
Basically what's left is:

  • change in Earth's magnetic field
  • change in Earth's axis
  • increase CO2 release in the atmosphere
We know for a fact #3 has had effect on Earth's climate in the past.  It's reasonable to assume it still has.
Now we know the only source (the only increase, I mean) is from human source.  There's no more volcano eruption than usual, so that's not the case.  No super volcano either.

In the absence of other reasonable explanations, we should assume that the scientific community who spent years studying this has it right.

Even if they're wrong, what have we to lose?  Less dependance on fossile fuels?  Producing electricity not from gaz or oil but from water, wind or sun?  I don't see how that's bad.
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Quote from: viper37 on June 13, 2013, 03:09:01 PM

Even if they're wrong, what have we to lose?  Less dependance on fossile fuels?  Producing electricity not from gaz or oil but from water, wind or sun?  I don't see how that's bad.

It's bad if it's more expensive than the alternative.
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katmai

Quote from: Jacob on June 12, 2013, 02:06:17 PM
Interactive google map showing the impact of rising sea levels: http://flood.firetree.net/?ll=49.1682,-122.9123&z=6&m=4

It's on Vancouver (my house is fine unitl 50m+ :) ), but you can move it anywhere you want (Denmark is not sitting pretty).

Apparently Anchorage laughs at your puny Rising Sea levels.





At least according to this map there is no change as they don't have us showing up :P
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Iormlund

A rise of a few meters would see a lot of former ports on the coast again: Places like Efesus or Miletus. The Thermopiles would be as narrow as they were when the 300 defended them. A couple more meters and the plain below Troy would resemble the one described by Homer as well.

merithyn

Quote from: crazy canuck on June 13, 2013, 02:35:02 PM
Quote from: merithyn on June 13, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
Some of us are religious retards who believe that we were created for the world. :sleep:

If that is the case then that was a decision the Creator would surely want back.

One could say that Global Warming is one way to make that happen.  :tinfoil:
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