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Started by Syt, June 11, 2013, 11:47:34 AM

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Syt

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/11/russia-law-banning-gay-propaganda

QuoteRussia passes law banning gay 'propaganda'

Law will make it illegal to equate straight and gay relationships and to distribute gay rights material

Russia's parliament has unanimously passed a federal law banning gay "propaganda" amid a Kremlin push to enshrine deeply conservative values that critics say has already led to a sharp increase in anti-gay violence.

The law passed 436-0 on Tuesday, with just one deputy abstaining from voting on the bill, which bans the spreading of "propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations" among minors.

The law in effect makes it illegal to equate straight and gay relationships, as well as the distribution of material on gay rights. It introduces fines for individuals and media groups found guilty of breaking the law, as well as special fines for foreigners.

Minutes after passing the anti-gay legislation, the Duma also approved a new law allowing jail sentences of up to three years for "offending religious feelings", an initiative launched in the wake of the trial against the anti-Kremlin punk band Pussy Riot.

The two laws were widely criticised by Russia's marginalised liberal and human rights communities and come amid a wider crackdown against independent civil activity in the country.

"I have sincere contempt for the Duma's deputies. All, including the so-called opposition. You have now brought fascism to my country," wrote Yelena Kostychenko, a journalist at the independent Novaya Gazeta newspaper.

International rights groups have called the current situation in Russia the worst human rights climate in the post-Soviet era.

The two laws vastly boost the power of the Russian Orthodox church, a religious body that professes total allegiance to the state. Putin, who often makes a show of his faith, has increasingly called upon the church to fill his own ideological vacuum following a contested presidential election last year, accompanied by unprecedented protests against him.

The case against Pussy Riot – in which three members were found guilty of "hooliganism motivated by religious hatred" after performing an anti-Putin anthem inside a Moscow church – was widely seen as the launch of an ultra-conservative agenda.

Russia's anti-gay law, whose text was softened to remove explicit referrals to "homosexual propaganda", introduces fines of up to 100,000 roubles (£1,975) for individuals who have used the media or internet to promote "non-traditional relations". Organisations can be fined up to 1m roubles and closed down for up to 90 days.

The bill, which must be signed by Putin to become law, also says foreigners can be detained for up to 15 days and deported, as well as fined up to 100,000 roubles, for breaking the law.

International gay rights activists, including British campaigner Peter Tatchell and US activist Dan Choi, have regularly travelled to Russia to support the country's struggling gay rights movement.

Russian activists insisted they would not halt their work. "It was totally expected – I don't take today's decision as the end of something," said Igor Kochetkov, the head of LGBT Network, a St Petersburg-based group.

"We insist on equal rights for all and we will continue to stand up against those patriarchal values that are today being actively promoted by the church and the government. We are doing this because we think these values, these norms, don't fit into a modern society."

"The government is using these instincts – homophobia, xenophobia – to justify its policies against an independent civil society," Kochetkov said. "They are making enemies out of us – not just LGBT society, but any group in society that doesn't agree with their current politics."

Clashes broke out in front of the Russian parliament on Tuesday, as around 300 activists gathered to protest for and against the bill. Police said 20 people were detained.
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Syt

German paper Zeit says according to a poll, 88% of Russians support the law. 50% would be in favor of making homosexuality a crime again.
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Syt

Unrelated, but there's recently been some hubbub that Russia, per decree from a ministry, demands the complete passenger records (including credit card details etc.) from airlines that fly to or over Russia, starting 1st July. If airlines don't cooperate they may lose rights to Russian airspace.

A tricky proposition for EU airlines who are forbidden by law to share that data unless there's an international agreement like between U.S. and EU (which comes with a ton of safeguards).
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Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

The Brain

I take it the protection of religious feelings doesn't work for Catholics?
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Valmy

Quote from: Syt on June 11, 2013, 11:47:34 AM
Quote[The law passed 436-0 on Tuesday, with just one deputy abstaining from voting on the bill, which bans the spreading of "propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations" among minors.

:blink:

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Liep

Quote from: Syt on June 11, 2013, 11:51:11 AM
Unrelated, but there's recently been some hubbub that Russia, per decree from a ministry, demands the complete passenger records (including credit card details etc.) from airlines that fly to or over Russia, starting 1st July. If airlines don't cooperate they may lose rights to Russian airspace.

A tricky proposition for EU airlines who are forbidden by law to share that data unless there's an international agreement like between U.S. and EU (which comes with a ton of safeguards).

Hmm, I'm flying with SAS to St. Petersburg on the 30th July, hopefully they won't have time to ban them. :P
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The Brain

Quote from: Liep on June 11, 2013, 11:57:13 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 11, 2013, 11:51:11 AM
Unrelated, but there's recently been some hubbub that Russia, per decree from a ministry, demands the complete passenger records (including credit card details etc.) from airlines that fly to or over Russia, starting 1st July. If airlines don't cooperate they may lose rights to Russian airspace.

A tricky proposition for EU airlines who are forbidden by law to share that data unless there's an international agreement like between U.S. and EU (which comes with a ton of safeguards).

Hmm, I'm flying with SAS to St. Petersburg on the 30th July, hopefully they won't have time to ban them. :P

:w00t: :cool:
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Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

The Brain

[CC] Maybe the proposal was so thought through and awesome that the only sane response was approval? [/CC]
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Liep

Quote from: The Brain on June 11, 2013, 11:58:51 AM
Quote from: Liep on June 11, 2013, 11:57:13 AM

Hmm, I'm flying with SAS to St. Petersburg on the 30th July, hopefully they won't have time to ban them. :P

:w00t: :cool:

:lol: Perhaps "it" would've been a better pronoun. :P
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Valmy

Quote from: Syt on June 11, 2013, 11:59:06 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 11, 2013, 11:53:44 AM
:blink:

You were not expecting serious parliamentary debate in Putin's Russia?

It is just mind blowing to see such a controversial law go through unanimously.  Most parliaments would have a hard time passing a bill declaring 'water is wet' unanimously.  Russia really is effectively a dictatorship.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Brain

Quote from: Valmy on June 11, 2013, 12:22:29 PM
Russia really is effectively a dictatorship.

:o :o :o No way!!11

Granted, it's only been about a thousand years. I guess news don't travel quickly over the pond.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: The Brain on June 11, 2013, 11:59:59 AM
[CC] Maybe the proposal was so thought through and awesome that the only sane response was approval? [/CC]

In this case there is some pretty good evidence the legislative and judicial branches of government have submitted to the will of the executive. ;)


The Brain

Quote from: crazy canuck on June 11, 2013, 12:30:36 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 11, 2013, 11:59:59 AM
[CC] Maybe the proposal was so thought through and awesome that the only sane response was approval? [/CC]

In this case there is some pretty good evidence the legislative and judicial branches of government have submitted to the will of the executive. ;)

:)
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Tamas

Quote from: Valmy on June 11, 2013, 11:53:44 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 11, 2013, 11:47:34 AM
Quote[The law passed 436-0 on Tuesday, with just one deputy abstaining from voting on the bill, which bans the spreading of "propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations" among minors.

:blink:

Russians are backward barbarians. Film at 11.