Misplaced Honor: US bases named after rebel mediocrities

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Berkut

#75
June 09, 2013, 11:50:14 PM
Why does Seedy have so much contempt for minorities?
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garbon

#76
June 09, 2013, 11:57:11 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 09, 2013, 11:50:14 PM
Why does Seedy have so much contempt for minorities?

He just wants the good ol' days where white folk helped the poor coloreds who couldn't do nothing for themselves, if they had even known how.
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#77
June 10, 2013, 01:06:10 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 09, 2013, 11:57:11 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 09, 2013, 11:50:14 PM
Why does Seedy have so much contempt for minorities?

He just wants the good ol' days where white folk helped the poor coloreds who couldn't do nothing for themselves, if they had even known how.

I thought that was the purpose of Obamacare.  :P
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Berkut

#78
June 10, 2013, 01:28:56 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 08, 2013, 12:23:29 PM
It wouldn't matter to you and the rest of the bootstrappers whether they were in the ghetto or on a reservation;  the poor are expected to suck it up, or just suck on it.

I sometimes wonder what country you live in.

Because in the USA, the poor are very much not expected to suck it up, and in fact are given tremendous amounts of help.

Much of which has been rather successful, in the being "poor" today sure isn't much like being "poor" even 50 years ago.

I don't get this bizarro world concept of the poor who get no help - which poor would that be?
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Valmy

#79
June 10, 2013, 07:11:46 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on June 06, 2013, 05:34:37 AM
And as an aside, I thought Bragg's reputation as a general had been largely rehabilitated over the last few years?

Because he lost with such pizzaz?  I mean anybody who fails to beat a truly horrendous general like Don Carlos Buell cannot be anything special.

I found the Hood apologism hilarous.  Whatever you might think of his brillaint tactical skills of 'CHARGE!!!!1111' you cannot rehabilitate his performance in Atlanta and in the invasion of Tennessee.  He was one of the Union's best assets.
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MadImmortalMan

#80
June 10, 2013, 01:10:24 PM
The Army should sell the names for sponsorships. Fort Avis Rent-a-Car.
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Tonitrus

#81
June 10, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 10, 2013, 01:10:24 PM
The Army should sell the names for sponsorships. Fort Avis Rent-a-Car.

Then we're at risk of the inevitable sordid public debate over whether to allow Fort Huawei, Mercedes Benz Naval Air Station, and Camp Toyota.

garbon

#82
June 10, 2013, 04:33:40 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 10, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 10, 2013, 01:10:24 PM
The Army should sell the names for sponsorships. Fort Avis Rent-a-Car.

Then we're at risk of the inevitable sordid public debate over whether to allow Fort Huawei, Mercedes Benz Naval Air Station, and Camp Toyota.

I don't see the problem. Apart from the former, we're protecting the rest of those anyway.
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Viking

#83
June 11, 2013, 03:01:46 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 10, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 10, 2013, 01:10:24 PM
The Army should sell the names for sponsorships. Fort Avis Rent-a-Car.

Then we're at risk of the inevitable sordid public debate over whether to allow Fort Huawei, Mercedes Benz Naval Air Station, and Camp Toyota.

And the PR disasters related to the headline

"Yesterday a Soldier based out of Ft. MicroSoft was found guilty of murdering 5 innocent civilians in the Afghan village of Achmachost."
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Razgovory

#84
June 12, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
I always thought the lionizing of traitors was strange.  I mean, we don't have an Alfred Rosenberg highschool.

EDIT:  It seems his name was actually Julius Rosenberg.  Whatever.
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Neil

#85
June 12, 2013, 08:11:17 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 12, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
I always thought the lionizing of traitors was strange.  I mean, we don't have an Alfred Rosenberg highschool.

EDIT:  It seems his name was actually Julius Rosenberg.  Whatever.
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#86
June 12, 2013, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 12, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
I always thought the lionizing of traitors was strange.  I mean, we don't have an Alfred Rosenberg highschool.

EDIT:  It seems his name was actually Julius Rosenberg.  Whatever.

We do have a state and national capital named after George Washington however. :yawn:
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Razgovory

#87
June 12, 2013, 08:25:41 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 12, 2013, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 12, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
I always thought the lionizing of traitors was strange.  I mean, we don't have an Alfred Rosenberg highschool.

EDIT:  It seems his name was actually Julius Rosenberg.  Whatever.

We do have a state and national capital named after George Washington however. :yawn:

It's not treason when you win :contract:
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#88
June 12, 2013, 10:46:28 PM
I think every base in Virginia should be named after George Thomas.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Eddie Teach

#89
June 12, 2013, 10:48:07 PM
There should be a fort in Miami named after Philip Michael Thomas.
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