2016 elections - because it's never too early

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derspiess

#8610
April 11, 2016, 07:01:57 PM
That was all Haig's fault.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

#8611
April 11, 2016, 07:04:11 PM
You dumbass racist whorehaters can only wish the General was around to save your fucked up little party now.  WELL ITS JUST TOO LATE

derspiess

#8612
April 11, 2016, 07:04:42 PM
lol
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

alfred russel

#8613
April 11, 2016, 07:49:41 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 11, 2016, 06:22:49 PM
So is it gonna be Cruz vs Hillary now? Or will the establishment crown somebody else when the convention rolls around? I'm completely at a loss about how is this supposed to work now. Despite picking up a lot of steam, it's not like Cruz will be able to command anything near a majority either.

I somewhat suspect that Cruz will command a majority on the second ballot.

On the first ballot everyone votes the way they were pledged--no one gets a majority--that is predictable. On the second vote the delegates start to be able to vote the way they really want to--and it seems that Cruz has been organized enough to make sure his delegates really support him, and a healthy number of Trump delegates support him too.

There are also a healthy number of delegates reserved for the RNC (about 7%) and presumably also a healthy number of RNCish delegates among the general delegate population, so if they unite behind someone they may also become a force that could give it to someone other than Cruz.
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Tonitrus

#8614
April 11, 2016, 08:49:31 PM
Yeah, I am thinking Trump will get the plurality on the first ballot, and lost a shit ton on the second.  Enough for Cruz to win on?  Hmmm, maybe...if Kasich sticks it out, there may be a sizable sympathy vote there, just to see how he fares.  Probably ends on ballot three or four.

Razgovory

#8615
April 11, 2016, 09:30:54 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 11, 2016, 07:04:42 PM
lol

Laugh it up, come November your choice will be between a habitually dishonest democrat who hold you in contempt and Hillary Clinton.
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derspiess

#8616
April 11, 2016, 10:53:06 PM
Clever.
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jimmy olsen

#8617
April 11, 2016, 11:14:40 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 11, 2016, 08:49:31 PM
Yeah, I am thinking Trump will get the plurality on the first ballot, and lost a shit ton on the second.  Enough for Cruz to win on?  Hmmm, maybe...if Kasich sticks it out, there may be a sizable sympathy vote there, just to see how he fares.  Probably ends on ballot three or four.

Theoretically, could Kasich throw in with Trump and have his guys vote for him on the first ballot in exchange for VP? Or do the same for Cruz if he's close enough for Kasich's votes to get him over the hump?

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Tonitrus

#8618
April 11, 2016, 11:49:45 PM Last Edit: April 11, 2016, 11:55:08 PM by Tonitrus
I don't think Kasich is interested in VP.

And if he wants to have a good base for running against Hillary in 2020, I thinking playing second-fiddle to Trump or Cruz in the GE would only hurt him.

CountDeMoney

#8619
April 11, 2016, 11:56:11 PM
Neither one of those goofs are going to pick anybody that ran earlier in this race against them. 

Tonitrus

#8620
April 11, 2016, 11:58:17 PM
Kasich would actually be good, moderating, Yankee pick for Cruz.  But as you said, neither are interested.

CountDeMoney

#8621
April 12, 2016, 12:10:41 AM
Nope...not at all.  And Cruz?  For all his obstruction, his alienation of his fellow Senators, his wars on everything from Planned Parenthood to the Export-Import Bank to immigration to Obamacare:  whenever he has had the opportunity, he has taken advantage of every procedural tool in the book to do everything in pissing off everybody, GOP and Democrat alike from Congress to the White House, by doing everything from forcing votes on Saturdays to shutting down the government. 

And after all that bullshit, what happens in Cleveland when all that insanity gets rewarded with the party nomination? He's going to double down on all that crap.  Maybe Issa, maybe even Paul--but he's definitely going to take a like-minded fuckstick goofball shitfuck as his running mate.

Trump?  Who the fuck knows.  Tom Brady.  Joy Behar.  Tom Cruise.  Kathie Lee Gifford.

Tonitrus

#8622
April 12, 2016, 12:13:30 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2016, 12:10:41 AM
Trump?  Who the fuck knows.  Tom Brady.  Joy Behar.  Tom Cruise.  Kathie Lee Gifford.

Oprah.

Barrister

#8623
April 12, 2016, 12:17:55 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 12, 2016, 12:10:41 AM
Trump?  Who the fuck knows.  Tom Brady.  Joy Behar.  Tom Cruise.  Kathie Lee Gifford.

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Phillip V

#8624
April 12, 2016, 12:18:07 AM
More than half of the $132 million in negative campaign ads have now been directed at Trump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/12/us/politics/donald-trump-negative-ads.html
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