2016 elections - because it's never too early

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Jaron

I can't wait to help myself to all of your things once Bernie wins.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Winner of THE grumbler point.

Razgovory

Quote from: Jaron on April 01, 2016, 11:07:10 PM
I can't wait to help myself to all of your things once Bernie wins.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

A net gain for the Raz!
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Jaron on April 01, 2016, 11:07:10 PM
I can't wait to help myself to all of your things once Bernie wins.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I think a Trump win is actually the most likely to lead to anarchy.  :hmm:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Razgovory

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 01, 2016, 11:14:44 PM
Quote from: Jaron on April 01, 2016, 11:07:10 PM
I can't wait to help myself to all of your things once Bernie wins.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I think a Trump win is actually the most likely to lead to anarchy.  :hmm:

That was Jaron wants.  A new Nauvoo legion would then march on Missouri where they believe heaven on Earth is.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Savonarola

QuoteHow Donald Trump sees himself


(CNN)He considers himself a member of "the lucky sperm club."

He trusts no one, and places a premium on revenge. ("If you do not get even, you are just a schmuck!")

He treats every decision he makes "like a lover," sometimes thinking with his head, other times with other parts of his body, because it reminds him to "keep in touch with my basic impulses."

And to make creative choices, he writes: "I try to step back and remember my first shallow reaction. The day I realized it can be smart to be shallow was, for me, a deep experience."

This is Donald J. Trump as he sees himself and the world.

CNN scoured thousands of pages of books, speeches, profiles and television interview transcripts from the past three decades to stitch together a portrait based entirely on the Republican presidential front-runner's own words.

Taken together, his words offer further insight into the leadership style of the billionaire-turned-politician, whose extraordinary candidacy has simultaneously electrified and repulsed large swaths of the electorate.

The GOP candidate has relentlessly mocked his opponents, lashed out at reporters and scorned the status quo. He has trusted his instincts, refused to apologize amid controversy, stood by his allies and sought to destroy his foes. He has focused on the big picture ("Make America Great Again") rather than on details such as abortion policy.

Trump authored more than a dozen books about his experiences in the business world that shaped this outlook -- most of them self-help treatises with titles including the 1987 best-seller "The Art of the Deal," 2004's "Think Like a Billionaire: Everything You Need to Know About Success, Real Estate, and Life," and 2007's "Think Big."

On the campaign trail, Trump has brushed off questions about his temperament, his leadership style and how he would govern. He has derided the press as being "among the most dishonest people ever created by God" — insisting that reporters have gotten his story wrong time and again.
Trump himself has shared his story in detail. Some recurrent themes in his writings include strength, success, self-confidence, distrust and revenge. He has often written and spoken about what he sees as the decline of the United States, a bedrock theme of his presidential campaign.

"The world is a vicious and brutal place, he wrote in "Think Big." "Even your friends are out to get you: They want your job, they want your house, they want your money, they want your wife, and they even want your dog.''

"When people wrong you, go after those people, because it is a good feeling and because other people will see you doing it," he writes. "I always get even."

'If I had been the son of a coal miner'

Trump's life story, in the broadest of brush strokes, goes like this:

He was born the son of wealthy New York real-estate developer Fred C. Trump. He went to a private military academy in high school, attended Fordham for two years, then the Wharton School of Finance from which he graduated.

While his father did business in Brooklyn and Queens, Trump set off to make his mark in Manhattan. He became fabulously wealthy (think penthouse, helicopter, yacht, private plane) in the real estate boom of the '80s, then nearly lost it all when the boom went bust. He has since rebounded to the tune — he says — of a personal fortune of $10 billion. (Forbes estimates his net worth at $4.5 billion).

As he has run his empire and ascended as a mega star on reality TV, Trump has often been accused of being a bully, which he denies.
He does, however, acknowledge being a "very assertive, aggressive kid."

When he was in elementary school he formed the opinion that his music teacher didn't know much about music.

So, Trump punched him in the face, he wrote in 1987's "The Art of the Deal."

"In the second grade I actually gave a teacher a black eye," he wrote. "I'm not proud of that, but it's clear evidence that even early on I had a tendency to stand up and make my opinions known in a very forceful way. The difference now is that I like to use my brain instead of my fists." (He adds that he "almost got expelled" over the incident.)

Another time, while playing with building blocks with his younger brother Robert, Trump ran out of blocks in the middle of a creation.

He asked his little brother if he could borrow some of his. Yes, the brother said, as long as you give them back when you're done.
The elder Trump completed his project and liked it so much that he glued the blocks together.

It was a self-admiration that would carry over into his real life as a builder.

In "Think Big," he writes of the emotional reaction he has when arriving to work at Trump Tower.

"I love to see the crowds of people oohing and aahing at the stunning marble and the breathtaking 80-foot waterfall," he wrote. "In truth I am dazzled as much by my own creations as are the tourists and glamour hounds that flock to Trump Tower ... or any of my other properties."

The mutual admiration of his work, Trump wrote, makes him feel "a little closer to them even though we've never met."

The billionaire developer has long felt a kinship with blue-collar workers -- and he believes the feeling is reciprocated. There is without question an aspirational nature to his candidacy, and blue-collar workers have shown up at the polls in droves to support his bid for the Republican nomination — often expressing admiration for his success and a belief that his financial wealth will free him from the influence of special interests if he makes it to the White House.

"Rich men are less likely to like me," Trump told Playboy in a 1990 interview, "but the working man likes me because he knows I worked hard and didn't inherit what I've built."

Trump acknowledges he was born wealthy — he grew up in a 23-room house in the Jamaica Estates section of Queens — and that his father loaned him money to begin his own business. But he stresses that he set himself apart when he headed to Manhattan and began building skyscrapers instead of affordable rental units.

"I often say that I'm a member of the lucky sperm club," he wrote in 2009's "Think Like A Champion."

"But did it give me a natural talent? I don't think so. It gave me an advantage that I deliberately chose to develop into an advantage."
There is an "it" factor people like him are born with, Trump has said.

To explain what he meant by "it," Trump, the son of a multi-millionaire, evoked the plight of mine workers with black lung disease in the interview with Playboy.

"If I had been the son of a coal miner I would have left the damn mines," said Trump, then 43. "But most people don't have the imagination—or whatever — to leave their mine."

"They don't have 'it,' " he said.

Moments of self-reproach

Trump seems most self-critical when writing about the near collapse of his real-estate empire in 1990.

"In the early 90s I was in a ton of debt. I had gone from the smartest guy in town to a complete zero," he wrote in 2007's "Think Big." "I went from being a super genius to a moron."

He recalled walking down the street one day with his then-wife, Marla Maples, and reflecting on his situation. He pointed to a nearby man.
"That beggar over there is worth $900 million more than I am," he wrote.

"What do you mean?" Maples asked.

"Because I'm $900 million in debt," he replied, "and at least he has money in his pocket."

He attributed his fall not only to the revision of the tax code by Congress in 1986 — which he said destroyed "just about any incentive anyone might have for investing in real estate" — but also to his own complacency.

"I got a little cocky, and probably, a little bit lazy," he wrote in 1997's "The Art Of The Comeback."

"You just get a feeling of invincibility," he said, reflecting on his downward spiral in that book.

"You let down your guard. You don't work as hard. Then things start to go in the wrong direction."

Trump, who has written that he sleeps three-to-four hours a night so he can devote as much time as possible to his work, does not dwell on his misfortune on the campaign trail, except to establish the depths from which he re-emerged.

He threatened to sue a Washington Post reporter who wrote about the bankruptcy of the Taj Mahal, one of his casinos in Atlantic City, according to an interview with that reporter on NPR's "Fresh Air." Trump also reacted indignantly to a question about his bankruptcies during CNN's September debate last year, insisting that he merely took advantage of U.S. laws to help his business.

Getting even

Back on top in the mid-2000s, Trump wrote "Think Big," which shows the evolution of his management style and his values as a leader.
"DO NOT TRUST ANYONE," reads one chapter subheading.

"I used to say, 'Go out and get the best people, and trust them.' Over the years I have seen too many shenanigans, and now I say, 'Get the best people and don't trust them.'"

Another maxim in Trump's world is revenge.

"I always get even," he writes in a chapter dedicated to the subject.

How to throw shade like Donald Trump

To illustrate his point, he tells of a woman "making peanuts" in her government job before Trump recruited her to work for him in the 1980s.
"She was a nobody in her government job and going nowhere," Trump wrote of the unnamed woman. "I decided to make her into somebody."
Under his mentoring, Trump wrote, the woman became powerful in real estate and bought a beautiful home.

When Trump was under intense financial pressure in the early '90s, he asked the woman to make a phone call to "an extremely close friend of hers who held a powerful position at a big bank who would have done what she asked."

"Donald, I can't do that," she told Trump.

So Trump "got rid of her," he wrote.

"She ended up losing her home. Her husband, who was only in it for the money, walked out on her and I was glad," he continued. "Over the years many people have called asking for a recommendation for her. I only give her bad recommendations. ...This woman was very disloyal, and now I go out of my way to make her life miserable."

Trump punctuated the anecdote with several bullet points at the end of the chapter, including:

"When somebody screws you, screw them back in spades" and "Go for the jugular so that people watching will not want to mess with you."
That approach was shaped by his own travails in business in the early 1990s as he watched his empire collapse around him.

"I believe in an eye for an eye — like the Old Testament says," he wrote in "The Art of the Comeback."

"Some of the people who forgot to lift a finger when I needed them, when I was down, they need my help now, and I'm screwing them against the wall. I'm doing a number.... And I'm having so much fun."

While Trump's writings and statements are geared primarily toward the business world, he has routinely weighed in on politics over the years.
Favorite themes are the need for national strength and restoring America's stature abroad, which he says has been diminishing for decades.
In the Playboy interview, he referred to the 1989 pro-democracy movement in Beijing's Tiananmen Square in which some 10,000 government troops killed an unknown number of protestors.

"When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it," Trump said. "Then they were vicious. They were horrible, but they put it down with strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak ... as being spit on by the rest of the world."

In "Think Big," he criticized then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice as a smiling, waving lightweight who is no match for the murderous dictators she was dispatched to deal with.

"Condi Rice just goes over there to get her picture taken," Trump wrote.

Trump states without equivocation that he could accomplish a feat that has eluded politicians for decades:

"I could negotiate peace in the Middle East -- very few other people could," he wrote in "Think Big."

Aside from a brief flirtation with the idea of a presidential bid in 2000, however, Trump has spent most of his years in the spotlight denying or downplaying such aspirations.

"I think I'm almost too honest to be a politician," he told CNN in 1997.

"I'm too forthright. I'm too — I think I'm too honest," he said, "but I do believe I'm too forthright to be a politician."

In times when the media is dedicating precious few resources to doing investigative journalism; it's good to see CNN stepping up and doing hard hitting, substantial, quality journalism like this.  Until today I had no idea Donald Trump was an arrogant, egotistical jerk.  CNN has only written, what? 500 articles on the subject, but this 501st one, this one really has me convinced.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock


Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

HisMajestyBOB

Trump will pull a surprise win over Cruz.
Basing this solely on how Trump keeps performing well after every "Surely this is the end of his campaign!" moment.
Three lovely Prada points for HoI2 help

Legbiter

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 03, 2016, 08:51:00 AM
Trump will pull a surprise win over Cruz.
Basing this solely on how Trump keeps performing well after every "Surely this is the end of his campaign!" moment.

  :lol:

He dosen't need Wisconsin, he needs PA, NJ and and big performance in NY. Voila, 1237 delegates
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Habbaku

Cruz will get a comfortable victory in Wisconsin.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien


Martinus

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 01, 2016, 11:14:44 PM
Quote from: Jaron on April 01, 2016, 11:07:10 PM
I can't wait to help myself to all of your things once Bernie wins.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I think a Trump win is actually the most likely to lead to anarchy.  :hmm:

More like syndicalism.

Savonarola

Quote from: Phillip V on April 03, 2016, 01:59:16 AM
Your predictions for Wisconsin on Tuesday?

Cruz, The Bern.  I'm not incredibly confident in either prediction, but both Trump and Hil had rough weeks last week and they may need some time to recover.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Phillip V on April 03, 2016, 01:59:16 AM
Your predictions for Wisconsin on Tuesday?

I would hope that all Americans would be embarrassed and ashamed. My prediction is they that won't be.


QuoteWisconsin's Voter-ID Law Could Block 300,000 Registered Voters From the Polls
One of the country's toughest voting restrictions takes effect for the April 5 primary.

By Ari Berman
The Nation
April 1, 2016

Johnny Randle, a 74-year-old African-American resident of Milwaukee, moved to Wisconsin from Mississippi in 2011, the same year the state legislature passed a law requiring a government-issued photo ID to cast a ballot. Randle, with the help of his daughter, petitioned the DMV to issue him a free ID for voting because he could not afford to pay for his Mississippi birth certificate.

After a five-month "adjudication process," the DMV denied his request. His daughter ultimately tracked down his Mississippi birth certificate, but the name listed, Johnnie Marton Randall, did not match the name he'd used his entire life, Johnny Martin Randle. The DMV said that he would either need to correct his name through the Social Security Administration and get a new Social Security card reflecting the name on his birth certificate or go to court to "change" his name and "provide court documents reflecting that your name has legally been changed to read as 'Johnny M Randle.'" But Randle worried that any change to his Social Security information might interrupt the monthly disability payments he survives on. (This account comes from a new lawsuit challenging Wisconsin's voting restrictions filed by Democratic lawyer Marc Elias, Hillary Clinton's campaign counsel.)

Randle was forced to choose between his livelihood and his right to vote. As of the April 5 presidential primary, he is still not able to vote in Wisconsin. After voting without incident in the formerly Jim Crow South, he was disenfranchised when he moved to the North. Stories like Randle's are why the Wisconsin Supreme Court dubbed the voter ID law a "de facto poll tax" and it was blocked in state and federal court until a panel of Republican-appointed judges reinstated the measure in 2014.

Randle is one of 300,000 registered voters in Wisconsin, 9 percent of the electorate, who do not have a government-issued photo ID and could be disenfranchised by the state's new voter-ID law, which is in effect for the first time in 2016. Wisconsin, one of the country's most important battleground states, is one of 16 states with new voting restrictions in place since 2012. The five-hour lines in Arizona were the most recent example of America's election problems. Wisconsin could be next.

Randle's account is hardly unique in Wisconsin. The lead plaintiff who challenged the voter-ID law, 89-year-old Ruthelle Frank, has been voting since 1948 and has served on the Village Board in her hometown of Brokaw since 1996, but cannot get a photo ID for voting because her maiden name is misspelled on her birth certificate, which would cost $200 to correct. "No one should have to pay a fee to be able to vote," Frank said.

Others blocked from the polls include a man born in a concentration camp in Germany who lost his birth certificate in a fire; a woman who lost use of her hands but could not use her daughter as power of attorney at the DMV; and a 90-year-old veteran of Iwo Jima who could not vote with his veterans ID.

Noted voting-rights expert Allan Lichtman, a professor of history at American University, says the Wisconsin voter-ID law "represents the first time since the era of the literacy test that state officials have told eligible voters that they cannot exercise their fundamental right to vote—not in the next election, probably not ever."

There is a clear racial disparity in terms of who is most impacted by the law. In 2012, African-American voters in Wisconsin were 1.7 times as likely as white voters to lack a driver's license or state photo ID, and Latino voters were 2.6 times as likely as white voters to lack such ID. More than 60 percent of people who've requested a photo ID for voting from the DMV have been black or Hispanic, according to legal filings.

The law also targets students. Student IDs from most public and private universities and colleges are not accepted because they don't contain signatures or a two-year expiration date (compared to a ten-year expiration for driver's licenses). "The standard student ID at only three of the University of Wisconsin's 13 four-year schools and at seven of the state's 23 private colleges can be used as a voter photo ID," according to Common Cause Wisconsin.

That means many schools, including the University of Wisconsin-Madison, are issuing separate IDs for students to vote, an expensive and time-consuming process for students and administrators. Students who use the new IDs will also have to bring proof of enrollment from their schools, an extra burden of proof that only applies to younger voters.

"They're trying to suppress the votes of students," says Analiese Eicher, program director at One Wisconsin Now and a graduate of UW-Madison. "There's no other reason."

Getting an ID from the DMV, which has very limited hours, is even more inconvenient. Writes Emily Mills in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

    Right now, the dirty little open secret of Wisconsin is that just 31 of our 92 DMVs maintain normal Monday through Friday business hours. Forty-nine of them operate only two days a week. One, in Sauk City, is open for just a few days a year. Only two are open at 5 p.m., and just three are open on weekends. For the whole state.

To exacerbate matters, Wisconsin has allocated no money to educate voters about the new law, as required by the legislation, and Republicans have dismantled the non-partisan Government Accountability Board in charge of supervising elections.


This is all happening despite the fact that voter impersonation, the stated rationale for the law, is virtually nonexistent in Wisconsin. "The defendants could not point to a single instance of known voter impersonation occurring in Wisconsin at any time in the recent past," wrote Judge Lynn Adelman of the US District Court in Wisconsin. "It is absolutely clear that Act 23 will prevent more legitimate votes from being cast than fraudulent votes." (Adelman was reversed by the US Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, who ruled that Wisconsin's law was "materially identical" to the Indiana voter-ID law approved by the Supreme Court in 2008, even though Wisconsin's bill is significantly stricter and impacts many more voters. See Judge Richard Posner's dissent for more detail.)

The voter-ID law is just one of many new voting restrictions passed by Republicans in Wisconsin since 2011. Most notably, the state legislature also eliminated early-voting hours on nights and weekends (GOP State Senator Glenn Grothman said he wanted to "nip this in the bud" before early voting in cities like Milwaukee and Madison spread to other parts of the state) and made it virtually impossible for grassroots groups to conduct voter-registration drives.



From the legal challenge filed by Elias:

    Since 2011, the State of Wisconsin has twice reduced in-person absentee ("early") voting, introduced restrictions on voter registration, changed its residency requirements, enacted a law that encourages invasive poll monitoring, eliminated straight-ticket voting on the official ballot, eliminated for most (but not all) citizens the option to obtain an absentee ballot by fax or email, and imposed a voter identification ("voter ID") requirement.

"There have been so many anti-voting laws in this state, it's hard to keep track," says Eicher.

Wisconsin has historically ran elections better than almost anywhere in the country, with consistently high voter turnout and reforms like Election Day registration in place since the 1970s. All that changed when Scott Walker and the Republican legislature took over the state in 2011.

"It's just, I think, sad when a political party—my political party—has so lost faith in its ideas that it's pouring all of its energy into election mechanics," Republican State Senator Dale Schultz, a rare dissenter, said in 2014. "We should be pitching as political parties our ideas for improving things in the future rather than mucking around in the mechanics and making it more confrontational at our voting sites and trying to suppress the vote."