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Valmy

#8355
April 01, 2016, 11:19:43 AM
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

#8356
April 01, 2016, 11:21:39 AM
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

PJL

#8357
April 01, 2016, 12:17:55 PM
You know what, perverse as this may seem, it may well be that a President Trump might actually bring more stability to foreign affairs in some respects that what we have now. For his bluster and unfocused mind could actually restrain the actions of those like Putin, Iran or even Kim in North Korea as they would be more wary of upping the ante to someone who is credibly unfocused / unstable and not very rational.

Nixon tried this during his run, but the Soviets & the Chinese saw through that. But Trump could have more success in that area.

Of course this will have little effect on the terrorists, although even ISIS may have second thoughts if they're still holding territory.

garbon

#8358
April 01, 2016, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: PJL on April 01, 2016, 12:17:55 PM
You know what, perverse as this may seem, it may well be that a President Trump might actually bring more stability to foreign affairs in some respects that what we have now. For his bluster and unfocused mind could actually restrain the actions of those like Putin, Iran or even Kim in North Korea as they would be more wary of upping the ante to someone who is credibly unfocused / unstable and not very rational.

Nixon tried this during his run, but the Soviets & the Chinese saw through that. But Trump could have more success in that area.

Of course this will have little effect on the terrorists, although even ISIS may have second thoughts if they're still holding territory.

You are a ridiculous person.
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derspiess

#8359
April 01, 2016, 12:27:09 PM
:lol:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

celedhring

#8360
April 01, 2016, 12:28:39 PM
"Let's elect a crazy president because everybody will be afraid of him".  :D

The Brain

#8361
April 01, 2016, 12:29:46 PM
Even North Korea never elected a crazy leader.
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Savonarola

#8362
April 01, 2016, 01:38:21 PM
Hil, feeling the Bern:

QuoteClinton to climate activist: 'I'm so sick of the Sanders campaign lying about me'

Syracuse, New York (CNN)Hillary Clinton, while being confronted Thursday by a climate activist about accepting donations from the fossil fuel industry, angrily accused Bernie Sanders' campaign of "lying" about her.

Eva Resnick-Day, an activist affiliated with Greenpeace and 350 Action, two climate organizations, asked Clinton if she will "reject fossil fuel money" from her campaign.
Greenpeace USA posted video after the exchange.


Clinton, clearly aggravated by the question, responded by raising her voice to the questioner and jabbing her finger toward the woman.

"I do not have, I have money from people who work for fossil fuel companies," Clinton said. "I'm so sick. I'm so sick of the Sanders' campaign lying about me. I'm sick of it."
This is not the first time 350 Action or Greenpeace have confronted Clinton over fossil fuel donations. The groups also questioned her on the issue during an Iowa City, Iowa, town hall in December and a Dover, New Hampshire, town hall in February.

Clinton is also routinely questioned on the rope line after events by people with pointed -- and at times aggressive -- questions. Clinton is generally able to either ignore the question or answer without getting angry.

Michael Briggs, Sanders' spokesman, did not respond to Clinton accusation that the campaign is lying about her, but stood by Greenpeace's question.

"The truth is that Secretary Clinton has relied heavily on funds from lobbyists working for the oil and gas industry," Briggs said, citing a Greenpeace article arguing that Clinton has taken donations from 57 oil, gas and coal industry lobbyists.

Nick Merrill, Clinton's spokesman, said Thursday that the Clinton campaign "has not taken a dollar from oil and gas industry PACs or corporations. The simple fact is that the Sanders campaign is misleading voters with their attacks."

The number in question, though, is donations from people who work for oil and gas companies. Under that metric, Clinton's has taken more than $300,000 from people who work for those companies, according to Greenpeace. Clinton's campaign has not received any money directly from oil and gas companies, as that would violate election law.

Merrill went on to note that "by the same metric, Bernie Sanders has taken more than $50,000 on this campaign from individuals working for oil and gas companies."

"Assuming they don't believe their own candidate is bought by the fossil fuel industry, they should stop the false attacks and do what they've claimed the campaign is about: debating the issues," Merrill concluded.

Resnick-Day, the Greenpeace questioner, said in a statement that she "was shocked and surprised at (Clinton's) reaction to my question."

"Secretary Clinton needs to listen to the people, not fossil fuel interests," Resnick-Day added.

Clinton's exchange with the activist came after a fiery event at the State University of New York at Purchase, where Clinton called out Sanders a number of times and confronted Sanders protesters who shouted her event.

Shortly into Clinton's speech, a small group of protesters stood up and yelled, "If she wins, we lose."

Clinton looked at them and said, "Oh, I know. Bernie people came to say that."

"I have earned 9 million votes in this election. I have 1 million more votes than Donald Trump and I have 2.5 million more votes than Senator Sanders," Clinton said to cheers as the protesters were escorted out.

Clinton has personally grown more frustrated with protesters in recent days, according to aides, annoyed by the fact that many of the protesters don't come to listen to proposals but are there just to disrupt.

Republicans jumped on the video of Clinton confronting the protester. American Crossroads, an anti-Clinton super PAC, sent reporters an email with the subject line, "Hillary loses temper with Greenpeace activist." The Republican National Committee called it a "testy" exchange.

If it makes you feel any better, Hil, Trump's protesters don't come there to listen to proposals either; just to disrupt.
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MadImmortalMan

#8363
April 01, 2016, 04:45:13 PM
Quote from: celedhring on April 01, 2016, 12:28:39 PM
"Let's elect a crazy president because everybody will be afraid of him".  :D

Arguably, not the first time.  :P
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"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Valmy

#8364
April 01, 2016, 07:21:35 PM
Man the Bernie fans are really starting to piss me off. Man so many weeks of their shit left to put up with.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Eddie Teach

#8365
April 01, 2016, 07:26:10 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 01, 2016, 07:21:35 PM
Man the Bernie fans are really starting to piss me off. Man so many weeks of their shit left to put up with.

Neither necessary, nor kind.  :(
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Razgovory

#8366
April 01, 2016, 07:32:04 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 01, 2016, 11:21:39 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 01, 2016, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: derspiess on April 01, 2016, 11:17:37 AM
:nelson:

I knew you would enjoy that :lol:

Silver lining and all that.

I never knew you thought Hilary Clinton as President is a silver lining.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

#8367
April 01, 2016, 07:46:37 PM
Trump is as likely to win the general as Cruz.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Berkut

#8368
April 01, 2016, 07:59:41 PM
Apparently I am a Trump supporter now, that is very disappointing.
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