2016 elections - because it's never too early

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derspiess

#7260
March 15, 2016, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 15, 2016, 03:52:50 PM
Yeah, I'm sure telling her why she should tactically vote for Trump will go down well.

It can be done.  She's deferred to me on other stuff.
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Phillip V

#7261
March 15, 2016, 04:59:48 PM
Does anybody think Rubio will stay in the race if Trump beats him tonight in Florida?

The candidate says he will stay in even with a loss.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/marco-rubio-stay-in-race-after-florida-220787

Barrister

#7262
March 15, 2016, 05:04:26 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on March 15, 2016, 04:59:48 PM
Does anybody think Rubio will stay in the race if Trump beats him tonight in Florida?

The candidate says he will stay in even with a loss.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/marco-rubio-stay-in-race-after-florida-220787

He has to say he'll stay in.

But if he loses he's out.  He's got no path to victory if he can't win his home state.

Too bad - I liked Marco.  I liked his "insult comic" phase, but his poll number really dropped when he did that.
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alfred russel

#7263
March 15, 2016, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2016, 05:04:26 PM

He has to say he'll stay in.

But if he loses he's out.  He's got no path to victory if he can't win his home state.

Too bad - I liked Marco.  I liked his "insult comic" phase, but his poll number really dropped when he did that.

Did you see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztdzg5kssXk

Way better than the insult comic phase. Maybe he should have broken out this stuff sooner.

He also seems a bit exhausted and emotionally drained.
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alfred russel

#7264
March 15, 2016, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2016, 05:04:26 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on March 15, 2016, 04:59:48 PM
Does anybody think Rubio will stay in the race if Trump beats him tonight in Florida?

The candidate says he will stay in even with a loss.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/marco-rubio-stay-in-race-after-florida-220787

He has to say he'll stay in.

But if he loses he's out.  He's got no path to victory if he can't win his home state.


There is a path to the nomination for the "establishment" candidate. And that is down to Kasich or Rubio.

As I was posting earlier, the conventional wisdom seems to be both of those guys are do or die tonight. But...assume Rubio loses and Kasich wins. Rubio still will have considerably more delegates and better funding. Why should he drop out?

On the other hand, why should both drop out if both lose? There is an argument that the two are crippling each other because they draw from similar support. Rubio might be more viable without Kasich and vice versa.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Martinus

#7265
March 15, 2016, 05:14:49 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 15, 2016, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2016, 05:04:26 PM

He has to say he'll stay in.

But if he loses he's out.  He's got no path to victory if he can't win his home state.

Too bad - I liked Marco.  I liked his "insult comic" phase, but his poll number really dropped when he did that.

Did you see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztdzg5kssXk

Way better than the insult comic phase. Maybe he should have broken out this stuff sooner.

He also seems a bit exhausted and emotionally drained.

Aww poor Little Marco, so frustrated his rich puppet masters failed to get him the nomination.

Fuck him, he is a loathsome empty suit. Good riddance.

celedhring

#7266
March 15, 2016, 05:19:46 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 15, 2016, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 15, 2016, 05:04:26 PM

He has to say he'll stay in.

But if he loses he's out.  He's got no path to victory if he can't win his home state.

Too bad - I liked Marco.  I liked his "insult comic" phase, but his poll number really dropped when he did that.

Did you see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztdzg5kssXk

Way better than the insult comic phase. Maybe he should have broken out this stuff sooner.

He also seems a bit exhausted and emotionally drained.

That's comfortably the best speech I have ever heard him give. Too late though.

DGuller

#7267
March 15, 2016, 05:30:57 PM
My hope, probably extremely over-optimistic, is that people like Rubio will have these kinds of come-to-Jesus moments, and look back and own up that Trump to a large extent was their own creation.  Trump is the logical conclusion of what "establishment" Republicans started.  And maybe afterwards they'll realize that US needs a political Peace of Westphalia rather than yet another escalation.

CountDeMoney

#7268
March 15, 2016, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 15, 2016, 03:17:13 PM
Except for one young gal I know who seemed enthusiastic about Sanders.  Need to have a chat with her.

I thought you had already told your wife who to vote for.  Oh, I get it.  A "chat".

Valmy

#7269
March 15, 2016, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 15, 2016, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 15, 2016, 03:52:50 PM
Yeah, I'm sure telling her why she should tactically vote for Trump will go down well.

It can be done.  She's deferred to me on other stuff.

You obviously mobilize impressive powers of persuasion away from Languish :hmm:
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jimmy olsen

#7270
March 15, 2016, 06:00:00 PM Last Edit: March 15, 2016, 06:36:58 PM by jimmy olsen
Beyond simply preferring her opponent, I grow more and more annoyed with her electoral incompetence. She should be destroying Bernie Bill Bradely style and instead we get this pathetic display, and we know it's not a fluke given her 2008 performance. Yet she is going to limp to the finish line and be the nominee, the only one in recent memory who could possibly lose to Trump.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidShuster/status/709844940713553920
QuoteShock Illinois exit poll: Hispanics voting 65-35 @BernieSanders over @hillaryclinton.  If that holds, Clinton will lose IL.  #DemPrimary
1:53 PM - 15 Mar 2016
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Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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garbon

#7271
March 15, 2016, 06:05:52 PM
:lol:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
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alfred russel

#7272
March 15, 2016, 06:10:23 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 15, 2016, 06:00:00 PM
Beyond simply preferring her opponent, I grow more and more annoyed with her electoral incompetence. She should be deatroying Bernie Bill Bradely style and instead we get this pathetic display, and we know it's not a fluke given her 2008 performance. Yet she is going to limp to the finish line and be the nominee, the only one in recent memory who could possibly lose to Trump.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidShuster/status/709844940713553920
QuoteShock Illinois exit poll: Hispanics voting 65-35 @BernieSanders over @hillaryclinton.  If that holds, Clinton will lose IL.  #DemPrimary
1:53 PM - 15 Mar 2016

I grow moore and moore annoyyed with english teechers that canned spell.

Timmay, teech our children well.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

derspiess

#7273
March 15, 2016, 06:15:40 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 15, 2016, 05:37:35 PM
You obviously mobilize impressive powers of persuasion away from Languish :hmm:

I've successfully talked people into voting my way before.  Just gotta find something they agree with me on and exploit that. 

Most people aren't as political as Languishites.  I gave up on you mooks long ago and for entertainment value decided to focus on things upon which we differ :P
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

jimmy olsen

#7274
March 15, 2016, 06:32:46 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 15, 2016, 06:10:23 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 15, 2016, 06:00:00 PM
Beyond simply preferring her opponent, I grow more and more annoyed with her electoral incompetence. She should be deatroying Bernie Bill Bradely style and instead we get this pathetic display, and we know it's not a fluke given her 2008 performance. Yet she is going to limp to the finish line and be the nominee, the only one in recent memory who could possibly lose to Trump.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidShuster/status/709844940713553920
QuoteShock Illinois exit poll: Hispanics voting 65-35 @BernieSanders over @hillaryclinton.  If that holds, Clinton will lose IL.  #DemPrimary
1:53 PM - 15 Mar 2016


I grow moore and moore annoyyed with english teechers that canned spell.

Timmay, teech our children well.

Typing on a phone while on a bus, give me a break.

10% of the vote in Florida. Clinton and Trump are crushing it.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/15/florida-illinois-missouri-north-carolina-ohio-live-results-primary-caucuses
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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