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2016 elections - because it's never too early

Started by merithyn, May 09, 2013, 07:37:45 AM

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Lettow77

I'd be surprised if his rally being disrupted by angry black folks and college kids hurt him with the GOP voter base in Illinois. I guess he'll probably take the state on tuesday.
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Quote from: Lettow77 on March 12, 2016, 12:40:24 AM
I'd be surprised if his rally being disrupted by angry black folks and college kids hurt him with the GOP voter base in Illinois. I guess he'll probably take the state on tuesday.

Im sure this is great for him and he probably loves it. That isnt the point.
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Quote from: alfred russel on March 12, 2016, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 11, 2016, 08:51:07 PM
Hecklers are not new, and political campaigns have managed such things before non-violently.  I've been to many political events were hecklers up showed chanting, holding signs, or driving by in a truck with an enormous picture of an aborted baby on the side and honking a horn.  It never occurred to me that I might need to  kill those people.  Typically there are police officers present who escort the hecklers away.  While not new, the audience assaulting hecklers is more typical of radical movements like the German-American Bund.

I absolutely do not think anyone should be killing hecklers or protesters.

Escorting hecklers out is a fine response, but if we are getting to the point that a presidential candidate is having to cancel events and the events that are held are being disrupted, then steps need to be taken to prevent that from happening. Such as letting the protesters spend a couple nights in jail and having them brought up on charges.

The violent ones have been the Trump fans, that's who the police are worried about.  If Trump can't have rallies because his own people are violent then that's really his problem.
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Martinus

Quote from: Lettow77 on March 12, 2016, 12:40:24 AM
I'd be surprised if his rally being disrupted by angry black folks and college kids hurt him with the GOP voter base in Illinois. I guess he'll probably take the state on tuesday.

The protesters seems to be mainly white male cucks and angry black dykes.

Martinus

Quote from: Razgovory on March 12, 2016, 01:00:49 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 12, 2016, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 11, 2016, 08:51:07 PM
Hecklers are not new, and political campaigns have managed such things before non-violently.  I've been to many political events were hecklers up showed chanting, holding signs, or driving by in a truck with an enormous picture of an aborted baby on the side and honking a horn.  It never occurred to me that I might need to  kill those people.  Typically there are police officers present who escort the hecklers away.  While not new, the audience assaulting hecklers is more typical of radical movements like the German-American Bund.

I absolutely do not think anyone should be killing hecklers or protesters.

Escorting hecklers out is a fine response, but if we are getting to the point that a presidential candidate is having to cancel events and the events that are held are being disrupted, then steps need to be taken to prevent that from happening. Such as letting the protesters spend a couple nights in jail and having them brought up on charges.

The violent ones have been the Trump fans, that's who the police are worried about.  If Trump can't have rallies because his own people are violent then that's really his problem.

On the flip side, you don't see Trump's supporters going to Clinton's or Sanders' rallies to interrupt them - they are perfectly happy going to Trump's rallies to show their support and do not believe they also need to prevent others from exercising the same right with respect to another candidate (if anything, it's the same Black Lives Matters angry blacks who crash Clinton's and Sanders' rallies).

It is quite clear to me, therefore, which side is the aggressor and which is defending itself here, but of course go on shining, you crazy diamond, spinning the situation completely contrary to logic.

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 12, 2016, 02:40:17 AM
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Quote from: Razgovory on March 12, 2016, 12:05:51 AM
If I was 10 years younger I might go for Sanders.  These days all that class warfare talk makes really wary.  I don't mind some regulation on banks and stock brokerages, but I don't feel comfortable labeling them "The Enemy".

If you're afraid to call your enemy your enemy when he's strutting right in front of you with his enemy uniform on, then maybe he's right, and all you do deserve are the scraps he throws you when he's done dining on your meal.

No war but the class war. :contract:
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Martinus

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on March 12, 2016, 06:41:50 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 12, 2016, 12:05:51 AM
If I was 10 years younger I might go for Sanders.  These days all that class warfare talk makes really wary.  I don't mind some regulation on banks and stock brokerages, but I don't feel comfortable labeling them "The Enemy".

If you're afraid to call your enemy your enemy when he's strutting right in front of you with his enemy uniform on, then maybe he's right, and all you do deserve are the scraps he throws you when he's done dining on your meal.

No war but the class war. :contact:

It's kinda funny coming from a Harvard graduate.

Capetan Mihali

:huh:  Coming from someone who's in a position to know how little a shit the rich give about people like Raz?  From someone who's got all the mainstream credentials of what's called "smart," who's practiced law on behalf of the poorest people in his society and even sometimes won for them?

And of course you do realize we have an incredible system of financial "aid" in this country so you don't have to be a rich Jew to go to Harvard Law, just have a high enough GPA and LSAT score and willingness to indebture yourself for $150,000.
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