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2016 elections - because it's never too early

Started by merithyn, May 09, 2013, 07:37:45 AM

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Legbiter

Quote from: 11B4V on March 12, 2016, 03:00:02 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 12, 2016, 02:54:11 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2016, 10:07:12 AM
Who will you vote for if it comes down to Trump and Clinton?

Clinton of course.

Same here most likely. Shady Lady is a known evil and my least disliked candidate out of all.

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dps

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 12, 2016, 02:54:11 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2016, 10:07:12 AM
Who will you vote for if it comes down to Trump and Clinton?

Clinton of course.

As best as I can tell, the only regular posters here who would vote for Trump in that scenario are derspiess and Seigy.

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

alfred russel

Quote from: Razgovory on March 12, 2016, 01:00:49 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 12, 2016, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 11, 2016, 08:51:07 PM
Hecklers are not new, and political campaigns have managed such things before non-violently.  I've been to many political events were hecklers up showed chanting, holding signs, or driving by in a truck with an enormous picture of an aborted baby on the side and honking a horn.  It never occurred to me that I might need to  kill those people.  Typically there are police officers present who escort the hecklers away.  While not new, the audience assaulting hecklers is more typical of radical movements like the German-American Bund.

I absolutely do not think anyone should be killing hecklers or protesters.

Escorting hecklers out is a fine response, but if we are getting to the point that a presidential candidate is having to cancel events and the events that are held are being disrupted, then steps need to be taken to prevent that from happening. Such as letting the protesters spend a couple nights in jail and having them brought up on charges.

The violent ones have been the Trump fans, that's who the police are worried about.  If Trump can't have rallies because his own people are violent then that's really his problem.

Seeing the secret service move in to protect trump from his supporter trying to rush the stage really demonstrates what you are saying.
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Capetan Mihali

Quote from: alfred russel on March 12, 2016, 05:19:51 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 12, 2016, 01:00:49 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 12, 2016, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 11, 2016, 08:51:07 PM
Hecklers are not new, and political campaigns have managed such things before non-violently.  I've been to many political events were hecklers up showed chanting, holding signs, or driving by in a truck with an enormous picture of an aborted baby on the side and honking a horn.  It never occurred to me that I might need to  kill those people.  Typically there are police officers present who escort the hecklers away.  While not new, the audience assaulting hecklers is more typical of radical movements like the German-American Bund.

I absolutely do not think anyone should be killing hecklers or protesters.

Escorting hecklers out is a fine response, but if we are getting to the point that a presidential candidate is having to cancel events and the events that are held are being disrupted, then steps need to be taken to prevent that from happening. Such as letting the protesters spend a couple nights in jail and having them brought up on charges.

The violent ones have been the Trump fans, that's who the police are worried about.  If Trump can't have rallies because his own people are violent then that's really his problem.

Seeing the secret service move in to protect trump from his supporter trying to rush the stage really demonstrates what you are saying.

When in the course of human events...
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Razgovory

Quote from: alfred russel on March 12, 2016, 05:19:51 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 12, 2016, 01:00:49 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on March 12, 2016, 12:30:36 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 11, 2016, 08:51:07 PM
Hecklers are not new, and political campaigns have managed such things before non-violently.  I've been to many political events were hecklers up showed chanting, holding signs, or driving by in a truck with an enormous picture of an aborted baby on the side and honking a horn.  It never occurred to me that I might need to  kill those people.  Typically there are police officers present who escort the hecklers away.  While not new, the audience assaulting hecklers is more typical of radical movements like the German-American Bund.

I absolutely do not think anyone should be killing hecklers or protesters.

Escorting hecklers out is a fine response, but if we are getting to the point that a presidential candidate is having to cancel events and the events that are held are being disrupted, then steps need to be taken to prevent that from happening. Such as letting the protesters spend a couple nights in jail and having them brought up on charges.

The violent ones have been the Trump fans, that's who the police are worried about.  If Trump can't have rallies because his own people are violent then that's really his problem.

Seeing the secret service move in to protect trump from his supporter trying to rush the stage really demonstrates what you are saying.


I'm not sure what your point is, but it does.  When you raise and angry mob there's no telling what it will do.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Legbiter

Quote from: Razgovory on March 12, 2016, 08:18:25 PMI'm not sure what your point is, but it does.  When you raise and angry mob there's no telling what it will do.

Yeah props to Sanders, 74 years old and he's got the best streetfighting contingent of them all.  :showoff:
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Capetan Mihali

Quote from: Legbiter on March 12, 2016, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 12, 2016, 08:18:25 PMI'm not sure what your point is, but it does.  When you raise and angry mob there's no telling what it will do.

Yeah props to Sanders, 74 years old and he's got the best streetfighting contingent of them all.  :showoff:

No way the Sandercist League will be defeated by the Trumpkorps on the American streets in 2016.  Not gonna happen.

Anyways, Chicago's a special case.  Proud IDF elf and infamous Clintonite Mayor R. Emanuel has turned that city into a powder keg by privatizing every city service under the sun, faking a decline in violent crime, and oh yes, blatantly covering up the video tape of a graphic police murder that even his Israeli kin would cringe at, so as to ensure reelection; après ça, la déluge must have been the thinking, but here it comes...
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
-- Prince, 2010. (R.I.P.)

Razgovory

Quote from: Legbiter on March 12, 2016, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 12, 2016, 08:18:25 PMI'm not sure what your point is, but it does.  When you raise and angry mob there's no telling what it will do.

Yeah props to Sanders, 74 years old and he's got the best streetfighting contingent of them all.  :showoff:

There been a lot of occassions where Sander's people beat up people and claimed that just might "need to kill them" if they come back?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Sanders supporters were throwing stuff at Trump supporters in Cleveland.  They are not without sin.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 12, 2016, 08:37:31 PM
Sanders supporters were throwing stuff at Trump supporters in Cleveland.  They are not without sin.

What kind of stuff?  Peanuts?  Bricks?  Grenades?  Trouble breaks out when Sanders supporters show up to Trump rallies.  Trouble breaks out when brown skinned reporters show up.  Trouble breaks out when white skin reporters show up.  Trouble breaks out when nobody but Trump people are there.  Seems like the underlining cause is Trumps people.  That shouldn't be surprising, since Trump himself has expressed desire to inflict violence on American citizens at his rallies.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on March 12, 2016, 08:59:37 PM
What kind of stuff?  Peanuts?  Bricks?  Grenades?  Trouble breaks out when Sanders supporters show up to Trump rallies.  Trouble breaks out when brown skinned reporters show up.  Trouble breaks out when white skin reporters show up.  Trouble breaks out when nobody but Trump people are there.  Seems like the underlining cause is Trumps people.  That shouldn't be surprising, since Trump himself has expressed desire to inflict violence on American citizens at his rallies.

Seems to me that the underlying cause of Sanders people throwing stuff was Sanders people deciding to throw stuff.