2016 elections - because it's never too early

[Valmy]

Caitlyn Jenner endorses, er, Ted Cruz.

http://injo.com/2016/03/551837-caitlyn-jenner-endorses-ted-cruz-president-trans-ambassador/

Trump to pick Kanye as Veep?

Remember when we were told that Jenner could not wait for us all to meet Caitlyn? Well I don't like her.

[garbon]

I'm not sure about that. Her bit doesn't seem to suggest it will go well for the establishment even if they stick with him.

I don't think there is any illusion that things will go well if Trump is the nominee one way or the other.

I think Dems need to watch all this very closely, because this is NOT a Republican phenomenon, no matter how much they might want to believe it is. The trends that have made Trump viable are the same trends that made Sanders a surprise threat to what seemed like an obvious Clinton coronation.

Trump is  a symptom of a disease, not the disease. And much like others symptoms, he might be even more dangerous than the disease, but if he goes away somehow, the disease will still be there.

If Clinton ends up getting elected, which seems likely either way, then both parties need to start figuring out how to really begin to redress the systemic problems. Hell, maybe the specter of Trump is just what is needed to wake the "establishment" up and get them to actually start representing their constituents instead of their donors.

I don't see anything in your post that supports your thesis. I wouldn't dispute that there are large issues that need solving* but I don't see why Bernie Sanders would be proof that this is not a Republican phenomenon. Seems more like evidence that people have always enjoyed populist rhetoric and don't care that much for Clinton. After all '08 was supposed to be a coronation and we saw Obama actually take her out. Bernie Sanders, as a long career politician, being able to manage less than a junior politician? Hardly evidence of a more dangerous trend.

Also, and my perceptions may be wrong, but I don't know there is as much evidence of people revolting against established Democrats. Unlike the Republicans who for at least the past decade, have a history of their established politicians being primaried out by 'fringe' ones, I don't think that's been happening to the Dems.

There may very well be an underlying disease but it is one that the Republican party is much less able (perhaps even incapable) to deal with.

*As a gay African-American it would be very bizarre if I said otherwise.

[Berkut]

I'm not sure about that. Her bit doesn't seem to suggest it will go well for the establishment even if they stick with him.

I don't think there is any illusion that things will go well if Trump is the nominee one way or the other.

I think Dems need to watch all this very closely, because this is NOT a Republican phenomenon, no matter how much they might want to believe it is. The trends that have made Trump viable are the same trends that made Sanders a surprise threat to what seemed like an obvious Clinton coronation.

Trump is  a symptom of a disease, not the disease. And much like others symptoms, he might be even more dangerous than the disease, but if he goes away somehow, the disease will still be there.

If Clinton ends up getting elected, which seems likely either way, then both parties need to start figuring out how to really begin to redress the systemic problems. Hell, maybe the specter of Trump is just what is needed to wake the "establishment" up and get them to actually start representing their constituents instead of their donors.

I don't see anything in your post that supports your thesis. I wouldn't dispute that there are large issues that need solving* but I don't see why Bernie Sanders would be proof that this is not a Republican phenomenon. Seems more like evidence that people have always enjoyed populist rhetoric and don't care that much for Clinton. After all '08 was supposed to be a coronation and we saw Obama actually take her out. Bernie Sanders, as a long career politician, being able to manage less than a junior politician? Hardly evidence of a more dangerous trend.

I like how you pretend that the relevant variable in comparing Sanders to Obama is his experience, rather than the rather obvious fact that he is a self avowed Socialist who isn't even actually a Democrat.

There really isn't much point to a discussion if you think Sanders is some kind of establishment senior politician, and that is why he has been a challenge to Clinton.

[Razgovory]

I'm not sure about that. Her bit doesn't seem to suggest it will go well for the establishment even if they stick with him.

I don't think there is any illusion that things will go well if Trump is the nominee one way or the other.

I think Dems need to watch all this very closely, because this is NOT a Republican phenomenon, no matter how much they might want to believe it is. The trends that have made Trump viable are the same trends that made Sanders a surprise threat to what seemed like an obvious Clinton coronation.

Trump is  a symptom of a disease, not the disease. And much like others symptoms, he might be even more dangerous than the disease, but if he goes away somehow, the disease will still be there.

If Clinton ends up getting elected, which seems likely either way, then both parties need to start figuring out how to really begin to redress the systemic problems. Hell, maybe the specter of Trump is just what is needed to wake the "establishment" up and get them to actually start representing their constituents instead of their donors.

Ah, the greatest myth in American politics.  Politicians don't listen to what their constituents want.  If only they'd wake up and listen to the "THE PEOPLE", then everything would be fine.

[Martinus]

Caitlyn Jenner endorses, er, Ted Cruz.

http://injo.com/2016/03/551837-caitlyn-jenner-endorses-ted-cruz-president-trans-ambassador/

Trump to pick Kanye as Veep?

Remember when we were told that Jenner could not wait for us all to meet Caitlyn? Well I don't like her.

I am not sure what's funnier though - the fact that Jenner proves for the 100th time that *they* is a fucking idiot and possibly insane (and had no place being heralded as a hero or hosting anything) or the way the liberal left is now turning against them over this endorsement. I think Ted Cruz is a vile creep, but perhaps Jenner believes that other issues he stands for are more important than transgendered rights?

[Valmy]

I am not sure what's funnier though - the fact that Jenner proves for the 100th time that *they* is a fucking idiot and possibly insane (and had no place being heralded as a hero or hosting anything) or the way the liberal left is now turning against them over this endorsement. I think Ted Cruz is a vile creep, but perhaps Jenner believes that other issues he stands for are more important than transgendered rights?

Oh wait does Caitlyn not use 'she'? Oh geez.

And I presume Jenner does feel that way which is why I don't like erm....them.

[garbon]

I'm not sure about that. Her bit doesn't seem to suggest it will go well for the establishment even if they stick with him.

I don't think there is any illusion that things will go well if Trump is the nominee one way or the other.

I think Dems need to watch all this very closely, because this is NOT a Republican phenomenon, no matter how much they might want to believe it is. The trends that have made Trump viable are the same trends that made Sanders a surprise threat to what seemed like an obvious Clinton coronation.

Trump is  a symptom of a disease, not the disease. And much like others symptoms, he might be even more dangerous than the disease, but if he goes away somehow, the disease will still be there.

If Clinton ends up getting elected, which seems likely either way, then both parties need to start figuring out how to really begin to redress the systemic problems. Hell, maybe the specter of Trump is just what is needed to wake the "establishment" up and get them to actually start representing their constituents instead of their donors.

I don't see anything in your post that supports your thesis. I wouldn't dispute that there are large issues that need solving* but I don't see why Bernie Sanders would be proof that this is not a Republican phenomenon. Seems more like evidence that people have always enjoyed populist rhetoric and don't care that much for Clinton. After all '08 was supposed to be a coronation and we saw Obama actually take her out. Bernie Sanders, as a long career politician, being able to manage less than a junior politician? Hardly evidence of a more dangerous trend.

I like how you pretend that the relevant variable in comparing Sanders to Obama is his experience, rather than the rather obvious fact that he is a self avowed Socialist who isn't even actually a Democrat.

There really isn't much point to a discussion if you think Sanders is some kind of establishment senior politician, and that is why he has been a challenge to Clinton.

I would suggest you read what I wrote and respond to that rather than...well the fiction you created. I didn't say that Bernie has been a challenge to Clinton because he is an establishment senior politician.

[Razgovory]

Caitlyn Jenner endorses, er, Ted Cruz.

http://injo.com/2016/03/551837-caitlyn-jenner-endorses-ted-cruz-president-trans-ambassador/

Trump to pick Kanye as Veep?

Remember when we were told that Jenner could not wait for us all to meet Caitlyn? Well I don't like her.

I am not sure what's funnier though - the fact that Jenner proves for the 100th time that *they* is a fucking idiot and possibly insane (and had no place being heralded as a hero or hosting anything) or the way the liberal left is now turning against them over this endorsement. I think Ted Cruz is a vile creep, but perhaps Jenner believes that other issues he stands for are more important than transgendered rights?

Well he doesn't want to come off as a SJW.

[Martinus]

I am not sure what's funnier though - the fact that Jenner proves for the 100th time that *they* is a fucking idiot and possibly insane (and had no place being heralded as a hero or hosting anything) or the way the liberal left is now turning against them over this endorsement. I think Ted Cruz is a vile creep, but perhaps Jenner believes that other issues he stands for are more important than transgendered rights?

Oh wait does Caitlyn not use 'she'? Oh geez.

And I presume Jenner does feel that way which is why I don't like erm....them.

I am not sure - I understand that "they" is the neutral form.

[Phillip V]

Romney 2016

Romney Still Really Wants to Be President

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/03/mitt-romney-still-really-wants-to-be-president

According to a Mormon prophecy believed to have been made by Joseph Smith Jr., the U.S. Constitution will one day be threatened, and a "white horse" will arise to save the nation.

[Martinus]

 

I just realised my latest hairdo is Romneyesque. 

[Phillip V]

What a great man. Such a shame it didn't work out.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-04/former-democratic-sen-jim-webb-says-he-may-vote-for-trump-over-clinton

Former Democratic Sen. Jim Webb Says He May Vote for Trump Over Clinton

Former Democratic presidential candidate Jim Webb, whose centrist campaign folded not long after the first primary debate, said Friday he won't vote for party front-runner Hillary Clinton – and is open to giving Republican favorite Donald Trump his vote instead.

"No, I would not vote for Hillary Clinton," said Webb, a former Democratic senator from Virginia, when asked on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" if he could support her. When it comes to Trump, he added, "I'm not sure yet. I don't know who I'm gonna vote for."

Though he served with her in the Senate, "it's nothing personal about Hillary Clinton," Webb told hosts Joe Scarborough and Willie Geist. A vote for Clinton, he said, is a vote for the status quo, while a vote for Trump is a vote to blow up a gridlocked, dysfunctional system of government.

"The reason Donald Trump is getting so much support right now is not because of the 'racists,' et cetera, et cetera," the former senator said, dismissing the problematic support Trump's getting from white supremacists like former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke. "It's because a group of people are seeing him as the only one who has the courage to step forward and say we've got to clean out the stables of the American governmental system right now. We've got to make it work."

Still, "voting for Donald Trump, you might get something very good or very bad," Webb continued. "Voting for Hillary Clinton, you're going to get the same thing. Do you want the same thing?"

You sure about that?

[Eddie Teach]

I am not sure what's funnier though - the fact that Jenner proves for the 100th time that *they* is a fucking idiot and possibly insane (and had no place being heralded as a hero or hosting anything) or the way the liberal left is now turning against them over this endorsement. I think Ted Cruz is a vile creep, but perhaps Jenner believes that other issues he stands for are more important than transgendered rights?

Oh wait does Caitlyn not use 'she'? Oh geez.

And I presume Jenner does feel that way which is why I don't like erm....them.

Only lefties are entitled to the pronoun of their choice, I guess.

[MadImmortalMan]

Webb switched parties a long time ago. He used to be a Republican.

[Grinning_Colossus]

That Hillald Clump is amazing.