2016 elections - because it's never too early

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MadImmortalMan

#6045
March 02, 2016, 02:06:22 PM
I'd like to point out that spicy wouldn't have two votes without the 19th amendment.  :P
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Valmy

#6046
March 02, 2016, 02:07:01 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 02, 2016, 01:58:06 PM
If it's Trump vs. Hillary I will have to wait and see what the Ohio opinion polls look like.  Come November, if Ohio has one or the other leading in the polls by a substantial margin, I'll support a third party candidate to vote my conscience.  But if it's close (and I fear it will be), I'll have no choice but to grit my teeth and throw in our two votes for Trump.

Well here is hoping Hillary is so far ahead you are free to vote your true feelings -_-
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Barrister

#6047
March 02, 2016, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 02, 2016, 01:58:06 PM
If it's Trump vs. Hillary I will have to wait and see what the Ohio opinion polls look like.  Come November, if Ohio has one or the other leading in the polls by a substantial margin, I'll support a third party candidate to vote my conscience.  But if it's close (and I fear it will be), I'll have no choice but to grit my teeth and throw in our two votes for Trump.

I don't see it.

With Hillary at least you know what you're getting.  It'll be a continuation of both Bill and Obama's policies.  They've been weak on foreign affairs, but at least they don't admire Putin.

Trump - who knows what he's going to do?  About the only thing I can discern from his rambling is that he's protectionist on trade - which is exactly the wrong move.  Plus you have all the thinly veiled racism which doesn't sit well at all.
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lustindarkness

#6048
March 02, 2016, 02:19:32 PM
Trump has told us already what he would do. He would make America Great Again!

Oh, and have Mexico build a wall, that too.
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derspiess

#6049
March 02, 2016, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 02, 2016, 02:06:22 PM
I'd like to point out that spicy wouldn't have two votes without the 19th amendment.  :P

Yeah, women's suffrage hasn't exactly been a walk in the park but I'm doing my best to make it work for me.
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crazy canuck

#6050
March 02, 2016, 02:24:48 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 02, 2016, 02:19:32 PM
Trump has told us already what he would do. He would make America Great Again!

Oh, and have Mexico build a wall, that too.

He would also use words.  You wouldn't believe the words he would use.

Berkut

#6051
March 02, 2016, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 02, 2016, 02:15:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 02, 2016, 01:58:06 PM
If it's Trump vs. Hillary I will have to wait and see what the Ohio opinion polls look like.  Come November, if Ohio has one or the other leading in the polls by a substantial margin, I'll support a third party candidate to vote my conscience.  But if it's close (and I fear it will be), I'll have no choice but to grit my teeth and throw in our two votes for Trump.

I don't see it.

With Hillary at least you know what you're getting.  It'll be a continuation of both Bill and Obama's policies.  They've been weak on foreign affairs, but at least they don't admire Putin.

Trump - who knows what he's going to do?  About the only thing I can discern from his rambling is that he's protectionist on trade - which is exactly the wrong move.  Plus you have all the thinly veiled racism which doesn't sit well at all.

Why are you listing these things as negatives for derspeiss?
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derspiess

#6052
March 02, 2016, 02:26:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 02, 2016, 02:15:07 PM
With Hillary at least you know what you're getting.  It'll be a continuation of both Bill and Obama's policies. 

No shit, Sherlock.  If my other choice is Hillary I'll take Door #3 thnks.  Did you *seriously* think there is feasible scenario where I'd actually vote for Hillary?
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derspiess

#6053
March 02, 2016, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on March 02, 2016, 02:24:48 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 02, 2016, 02:19:32 PM
Trump has told us already what he would do. He would make America Great Again!

Oh, and have Mexico build a wall, that too.

He would also use words.  You wouldn't believe the words he would use.

They're gonna be the prettiest words anyone has ever used.  And you're gonna love them.
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Berkut

#6054
March 02, 2016, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 02, 2016, 02:26:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 02, 2016, 02:15:07 PM
With Hillary at least you know what you're getting.  It'll be a continuation of both Bill and Obama's policies. 

No shit, Sherlock.  If my other choice is Hillary I'll take Door #3 thnks.  Did you *seriously* think there is feasible scenario where I'd actually vote for Hillary?

Yes.

A scenario where the other option is a racist, unqualified, dangerous populist.

Or rather, I would think that is a scenario that would result in a Hillary vote for those who are not racist, populist fascist wanna-bes.
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frunk

#6055
March 02, 2016, 02:33:50 PM
I think Trump is going to be able to tack toward the center better than any other modern politician, just because very little of what he says makes sense or can be taken seriously.  What's a few more contradictory and confusing statements on top of what he's already said?

Valmy

#6056
March 02, 2016, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: frunk on March 02, 2016, 02:33:50 PM
I think Trump is going to be able to tack toward the center better than any other modern politician, just because very little of what he says makes sense or can be taken seriously.  What's a few more contradictory and confusing statements on top of what he's already said?

I like that he can say he is for single payer health care but nobody cares and votes for him anyway. It is like a magical spell. Hell even Spicey is going to do it.
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derspiess

#6057
March 02, 2016, 02:36:18 PM Last Edit: March 02, 2016, 02:37:57 PM by derspiess
Quote from: Berkut on March 02, 2016, 02:28:02 PM
Yes.

A scenario where the other option is a racist, unqualified, dangerous populist.

Or rather, I would think that is a scenario that would result in a Hillary vote for those who are not racist, populist fascist wanna-bes.

We've talked back and forth here and on EUOT for like 15 years and you still don't know me!  :D

Hillary is an anti-male sexist, also unqualified for the office, and peddles her own brand of populism.  She's generally a terrible person and I'm done with the Clintons.  I don't like Trump, but he's slightly less terrible than Hillary.

But who knows, maybe I'll finally get my chance to vote Libertarian in a prez election #feelthejohnson
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Valmy

#6058
March 02, 2016, 02:37:19 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 02, 2016, 02:36:18 PM
Hillary is an anti-male sexist, also unqualified for the office, and peddles her own brand of populism.  She's generally a terrible person and I'm done with the Clintons.  I don't like Trump, but he's slightly less terrible than Hillary.

But who knows, maybe I'll finally get my chance to vote Libertarian in a prez election #feelthejohnson

Anti-male? Unqualified? Ok terrible person I can get but come on.

And she could not be more of an insider of a corrupt sell out part of the establishment. Populist? LOL.
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derspiess

#6059
March 02, 2016, 02:38:52 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 02, 2016, 02:37:19 PM
Anti-male? Unqualified? Ok terrible person I can get but come on.

And she could not be more of an insider of a corrupt sell out part of the establishment. Populist? LOL.

Her feminazism is a specific form of populism.
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