2016 elections - because it's never too early

[Martinus]

If Bernie had won the primary, white college-educated working women would have been all butthurt and voted for Jill Stein. 

Bernie also wouldn't have gotten some of the college educated moderates that HRC got, which would mean e.g. Virginia falls.  Based on his primary performance he probably also doesn't get as strong a minority turnout which would be a problem at the margins in many of the same states HRC struggled.

So, all the people who kept telling everybody that refusing to vote for Hillary means a vote for Trump would have not voted for Bernie, thus electing Trump? 

[Martinus]

I would have voted for Bernie. At least he's a decent human being, if deluded.

I find people like him frustrating.  I dislike it when people put their own purity above messy business of actually governing.  Politics is also a team sport, and I think it's a bit odd to for someone who isn't actually on the team and never shows up to practice to expect to be picked as quarterback.

Yeah, well, glad that it worked out so well with Clinton then!

[garbon]

[Martinus]

God, it's going to be a long 4 to 8 years.

[garbon]

God, it's going to be a long 4 to 8 years.

Hey, I'd be happy to stop if you'd stop posting goofy ass shit about American politics. It will be trying enough to endure a Trump presidency without you trying to constantly stir shit up.

I know there's no point in actually discussing any of your political posts that I've flagged with Jaron as you aren't actually interested in a discussion. You just want to post annoying bits here and then that are in line with your alt-right position.

So rather than engage, I'm just giving you quick, little posts to remind you that you are posting bullshit.

Who knows, maybe one day, years from now, you'll look back and say 'Thank you, garbon. I was being quite a dick, wasn't I? Thank you for calling out my bullshit but in a fashion that didn't leave me a lot of room to reply back with even more bullshit.'

[celedhring]

The GOP primary, for Lettowites:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313881651/grand-old-academy-a-satirical-dating-sim

[Martinus]

An interesting piece by Ann Coulter (amidst her typical hyperbole):

LITERALLY SHAKING

November 16, 2016

Until the nationwide protests of the last few days, I had no idea how bad the problem was, but our nation is drowning in drama queenery.

The immediate reaction of most celebrities to Trump's victory was: "THE WORLD IS WAITING FOR MY TAKE ON THE ELECTION!"

Aaron Sorkin and David Remnick, in matching pink housecoats and fuzzy slippers, wrote hysterical jeremiads about the cataclysm of Trump's election.

Sorkin was especially irked that Trump was supported by white men who don't appreciate rap music. As proof that the end was near, he triumphantly reported: "The Dow futures dropped 700 points overnight." After a brief drop, the Dow surged to historic highs, recording its biggest weekly gain in five years.

But I can't wait to read the letters these guys wrote to their children about Bill Clinton! Don't leave us hanging guys -- post those, too, please.

In Hiplandia, "I couldn't stop crying!" and "I vomited!" are dispositive proof that Trump is a bad man -- not that these people are mentally unbalanced. Their own paranoia is cited to show how evil their enemies are.

It's supposed to say something about Trump that people are posting little homilies titled: "How to Tell a Child Donald Trump Won the Election." (Google produces 60 million hits for that idea.)

In fact, that tells us nothing whatsoever about Trump, but does tell us that liberal parents are intentionally raising neurotics by telling their children that they are living in Nazi Germany.

Americans who make $20,000 a year are made fun of by Samantha Bee for going to Wal-Mart.

These are all people who will knife one another in the back to get their kids into $50,000-a-year all-white preschools. But they think they're less racist than other Americans because of their pleasant interactions with Rosa when she comes to clean.

In the modern Democratic Party, out-of-work coal miners are constantly denounced for their "privilege" by half-black girls at Yale -- who wouldn't have gotten in without the black half and who will be paid a quarter-million dollars as the "diversity coordinator" at some Fortune 500 corporation.

Apparently the new method of developing opinions is to figure out what's trendy and allowing celebrities and comedians to act as your personal shoppers.

I'm just so busy, I don't have time to know things. Could you help me pick out my views?

Absolutely! I've got some great opinions for you. How do you like, "I can't believe this is my country" or "I am literally shaking"?

Oh yes, I love those –- that looks great on me!

This is why the snowflakes are smashing windows, beating up Trump supporters and calling for the assassination of Trump and the rape of his wife. If you've ever wondered how France's Reign of Terror happened, observe the anti-Trump protests — the main result of which is to convince people who had misgivings about voting for Trump that they did the right thing.


Trump is denounced for his alleged "racism, homophobia, sexism, anti-Semitism, Islamaphobia!"

No one stops to think: Wait a minute! These are all groups Trump has showered with affection, with the exception of Muslim immigrants -- who persecute the other four.

This is the mob's muscle memory kicking in, as when Sen. Patty Murray reached for her mental file on "Good Things a Leader Can Do" and ended up praising Osama bin Laden after 9/11 for "building day care facilities, building health care facilities." The protesters are pulling out slogans from their "Things We Pretend to Hate" file.

All this is the consequence of the Democratic Party's decision in the 1970s to get rid of all the normal people. Back when the party contained a large segment of the working class, there was a safety valve. They couldn't afford to be associated with airhead celebrities pushing insane ideas. Mayor Richard Daley, for example, did not travel to Cuba or brag about his friendship with Daniel Ortega.

But then the head of the auto union had to be kicked out of the party because he was "anti-choice."

Really? But he's been a Democrat for 18 years ... 

Well, maybe it's time we hear from the REST of America!

Unfortunately, the rest of America wasn't large enough for Democrats to win elections. So they had to import Third World immigrants to vote for them.

Trump's election is the Doomsday Scenario for Democrats because they were just on the verge of turning the whole country into California through mass immigration. Then they'd never have to think about those hicks in the icky parts of the country ever again. It would be so much better to be able to win elections by whipping up resentment toward white people.

Last year, old lefty Bernie Sanders said mass immigration was a disaster for the working class, driving down their wages. He called open borders "a Koch brothers idea."

Representing the modern, yuppified Democratic Party, the low-testosterone boys at Vox went nuts. Dylan Matthews sneeringly cited the many benefits of mass immigration -- to wit: cheap gardeners, maids and nannies. He also compared a pro-American immigration policy to the massacre of "10,000 foreign civilians to save a single American life."

He didn't say it, but I got the distinct impression that Dylan was "literally shaking."

[garbon]

Interesting piece by Coulter, my ass.

[mongers]

God, it's going to be a long 4 to 8 years.

Hey, I'd be happy to stop if you'd stop posting goofy ass shit about American politics. It will be trying enough to endure a Trump presidency without you trying to constantly stir shit up.

I know there's no point in actually discussing any of your political posts that I've flagged with Jaron as you aren't actually interested in a discussion. You just want to post annoying bits here and then that are in line with your alt-right position.

So rather than engage, I'm just giving you quick, little posts to remind you that you are posting bullshit.

Who knows, maybe one day, years from now, you'll look back and say 'Thank you, garbon. I was being quite a dick, wasn't I? Thank you for calling out my bullshit but in a fashion that didn't leave me a lot of room to reply back with even more bullshit.'

As a European I somewhat felt that way, so can appreciate to many Americans that posting behaviour must be very annoying.

[derspiess]

God, it's going to be a long FUN 4 to 8 years.

Fixed.  You're looking at it all wrong, see...

[Martinus]

God, it's going to be a long FUN 4 to 8 years.

Fixed.  You're looking at it all wrong, see...

I didn't want to rub it in.

Apparently on Languish it is trolling to post opinions and news from people and websites that are not liberal.

[Savonarola]

Until the nationwide protests of the last few days, I had no idea how bad the problem was, but our nation is drowning in drama queenery.

Queenery?  Does she usually write like this?

The immediate reaction of most celebrities to Trump's victory was: "THE WORLD IS WAITING FOR MY TAKE ON THE ELECTION!"

Would be funny, except they're probably right.  We did just elect a celebrity to the presidency after all.

[Grey Fox]

@Martinus

Languish isn't liberal, you are just pushing it too hard. Pace yourself.

[Berkut]

God, it's going to be a long FUN 4 to 8 years.

Fixed.  You're looking at it all wrong, see...

I didn't want to rub it in.

Apparently on Languish it is trolling to post opinions and news from people and websites that are not liberal.

You are such a douchebag.

[derspiess]

So I wonder what Trump and de Blasio had to talk about.