2016 elections - because it's never too early

[garbon]

Michael Moore on why Trump will win:

http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

It is cute how he tries so hard to remain relevant despite consistently failing.

[Admiral Yi]

Agree with Biscuit that currently members of the cabinet are pretty much ribbon cutters.

However, I will point out that Hillary did publicly distance herself after leaving office from what is arguably Obama's 2nd most disastrous foreign policy move, spending $500 million to arm six deserting Syrians.

[frunk]

However, I will point out that Hillary did publicly distance herself after leaving office from what is arguably Obama's 2nd most disastrous foreign policy move, spending $500 million to arm six deserting Syrians.

If I remember right only a small portion of that money was spent, but I certainly wouldn't argue with you on it being a dumb idea (or at best a middling idea poorly executed).

[The Minsky Moment]

HC managed to avoid dissolving NATO while Secretary of State, so there's that.

[The Minsky Moment]

Only her name was on the ballot for her Senate election

She was not initially favored to win in 2000.  Strange as it may seem now, Rick Lazio was perceived as a rising star with cross-party appeal.   HC really put in a lot of work upstate, winning a few counties and staying competitive in others to allow the NYC vote to swamp Lazio.  Bill was not a factor in the campaign.  Obviously the name recognition helped her get the nomination but that came with baggage and negatives as well.

[Phillip V]

Only her name was on the ballot for her Senate election

She was not initially favored to win in 2000.  Strange as it may seem now, Rick Lazio was perceived as a rising star with cross-party appeal.   HC really put in a lot of work upstate, winning a few counties and staying competitive in others to allow the NYC vote to swamp Lazio.  Bill was not a factor in the campaign.  Obviously the name recognition helped her get the nomination but that came with baggage and negatives as well.

I assume the carpetbagging, the horrible sex scandal, Republican demonization, woman factor, Republican Congressman opponent, etc. did not help Hillary Clinton either.  It likely took a lot of courage and work to run for elected office for the first time.

[Razgovory]

Her political clout was derived from being Bill's wife.  Now what did she accomplish in those positions?

Killed Gaddafi at the cost of 4 people.  Reagan couldn't even manage that and he lost 160 odd people as a result.

[CountDeMoney]

Her political clout was derived from being Bill's wife.  Now what did she accomplish in those positions?

So if you "derive clout" from another, you've not achieved anything on your own?

In derfrau's world, the only woman that's ever accomplished anything on her own is Phyllis Schafly.

[Ed Anger]

Women politicians suck

[Jaron]

Holy Cow, Boston accents are the worst.

[CountDeMoney]

Holy Cow, Boston accents are the worst.

Wickahd hahdcoah.

[11B4V]

Holy Cow, Boston accents are the worst.

Wickahd hahdcoah.

Maybe you can go to a taco bowl outreach.

[Razgovory]

As far as I know, Trump's foreign policy is "Let the Russians win".

[CountDeMoney]

Maybe you can go to a taco bowl outreach.

[Razgovory]

Good God, I talked to a few people who believed that Trump is chosen by God for to do great things for this country.  I was then informed that since I never built a multi-billion dollar business from the ground up I can't criticize him.  Plus it's God's business to judge people not mine.  Of course Hillary is a bad person.