2016 elections - because it's never too early

[celedhring]

From that 538 table, it seems to me that the working class is sitting out the GOP primary, which is hardly surprising.

[Zanza]

From that 538 table, it seems to me that the working class is sitting out the GOP primary, which is hardly surprising.

The Democratic one as well. Which is also not surprising. It's just a guess, but I would expect below average voter turnout among poor people in all Western democracies.

[Martinus]

Oh shut up. You don't know crap about US politics. Enough with the Breitbart/Milo talking points, troll.

Do you have a maid?

Yes

Is she Hispanic?

[Jaron]

Oh shut up. You don't know crap about US politics. Enough with the Breitbart/Milo talking points, troll.

Do you have a maid?

Yes

Is she Hispanic?

Yes. Most of them are.

[celedhring]

From that 538 table, it seems to me that the working class is sitting out the GOP primary, which is hardly surprising.

The Democratic one as well. Which is also not surprising. It's just a guess, but I would expect below average voter turnout among poor people in all Western democracies.

Not nearly as much. Median voter income is just roughly 10% above average for the Dems. In the case of Trump is roughly 30%. LOL at Kasich, though. Wasn't aware there was such a thing as GOP champagne liberals.

Also surprised to see Hillary tied with Sanders. I guess Hillary's pull with minorities cancels out Sanders' pull with the white working class and college students.

This a primary, though. I can see poor people in general bothering less with that than the general.

[jimmy olsen]

Oh, did you mean "But she's a woman!" ?

No. I meant she's a woman who wears ugly clothes. 

Actually, the only annoying thing about the pro-Hillary camp is how hysterical you all get about Bernie Sanders. Like you'd vote Trump to avoid being placed in gulags.

I did a poll on this, Bernie beat Trump in a landslide 

[Jaron]

Oh, did you mean "But she's a woman!" ?

No. I meant she's a woman who wears ugly clothes. 

Actually, the only annoying thing about the pro-Hillary camp is how hysterical you all get about Bernie Sanders. Like you'd vote Trump to avoid being placed in gulags.

I did a poll on this, Bernie beat Trump in a landslide

No

[jimmy olsen]

Man, the Onion was fucking prophetic. 

http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/ad...-dont-you-50895

Admit It: You People Want To See How Far This Goes, Don't You?

COMMENTARY July 21, 2015
VOL 51 ISSUE 29  ·  Opinion · Election 2016 · Donald Trump

The latest polls are out, and just as I predicted, I'm leading the Republican presidential race by a wide margin. You might be wondering how that could be. After all, it's hardly been a month since I entered the field and I've already alienated America's largest immigrant population, seen dozens of my high-profile business deals implode one after the other, and publicly insulted a national hero's military service, all while not offering a single viable policy idea. But none of that matters at all, and my candidacy continues to surge forward, because none of you—not a single one of you—can look away. Not even for a second.

Admit it: You people want to see just how far this goes, don't you?

My campaign's just barely begun and I've already got you begging for more. Sure, you can say you oppose me or that you don't even take me seriously. But let me ask you: How many articles have you read about Ted Cruz lately? How many news segments have you watched on Bobby Jindal? Or Rand Paul? But if those stories have the name "Donald Trump" in them, well, look who suddenly can't get enough.

The thing is, I've got all of you eating out of my hand and I haven't even released a single campaign commercial yet. Don't look me in the eye and tell me you don't want to stick around and see what that looks like, because you and I both know these ads are going to be absolutely incredible. I'll be standing there projecting my best presidential air, saying "I'm Donald Trump, and I approve this message," and you won't be able to take your eyes off it.

You keep obsessing over every little thing I do and say, and I promise you'll get your commercials real soon.

And the TV spots are just the beginning. I know you, and I know what you like. You'll absolutely eat it up when you see the "Trump '16" T-shirts, the lawn signs, the bumper stickers; in fact, you'll probably get a real kick out of pointing them out to your friends. Now, just imagine me shaking hands with senior citizens at a nursing home in Iowa. Wouldn't you love to watch that? Or hear what comes out of my mouth when I speak to blue-collar workers at a struggling auto factory?

You say that doesn't interest you? Oh, right, because you're dying to see how Scott Walker behaves in those situations, right? Give me a break.

Just take a moment and imagine the primary debates: Jeb Bush; Chris Christie; me. Of course, they'll put me in the middle because I'm ahead in the polls—far ahead at the moment. You already know how I answer even the most basic inquiries, so just picture me staring down the barrel of a question about foreign affairs or agriculture policy or something like that. You think you won't sit there with bated breath while I try to tackle a question about using military force, or about food stamps, or about how my faith influences my decision-making? I guarantee you that my answers will be worth watching. And we both know you wouldn't miss them for the world. It'd be the biggest, most-watched primary debate in history, courtesy of all of you.

And might I remind you that the longer this goes on, the closer I get to selecting a running mate. That realization kind of delighted you in a way, didn't it? You absolutely want to know who I'd pick. A defeated GOP challenger who hates my guts? Another lunatic billionaire? Maybe my own son, Donald Trump Jr.? Whatever your wildest expectation is, I promise you I will surpass it. You're not going to pass up an opportunity to see that, are you?

I can tell you're practically salivating right now. And I'm going to keep riding this fascination, this little fixation you have with me as far as you'll take me. You know I will.

So don't try to tell me you'd be just as happy to watch one of these other bozos go toe-to-toe with Hillary Clinton or give a soaring speech at the national convention. And don't delude yourself into thinking it's everyone else who wants to watch me do this and you're somehow above it. You want to see it. You want more. You hear "Trump" and your attention snaps to the TV screen right away.

Don't think it's true? Fine. You know what you have to do to make me go away. Just quit paying attention. Stop reading this right now.

That's right, I didn't think so. I have the power to make the next 16 months one of the most incredible times in our nation's history, and not a single one of you can say you're not at least a little bit curious to see how this wild ride shakes out. So just keep clicking every link that mentions my name and hitting play on every clip of my public appearances, and I promise you will not be disappointed.

Now, excuse me, but I have to go appear at a New Hampshire town hall and make a statement that every last one of you will be eagerly reading about and discussing in just a few hours' time.

[FunkMonk]

Oh, did you mean "But she's a woman!" ?

No. I meant she's a woman who wears ugly clothes. 

Actually, the only annoying thing about the pro-Hillary camp is how hysterical you all get about Bernie Sanders. Like you'd vote Trump to avoid being placed in gulags.

#NeverBernie

[FunkMonk]

Considering all the violence going on at Trump rallies, whether started by pro-Trump or anti-Trump forces, I'm curious to see how peaceful election day will turn out to be 

[Legbiter]

SANTA MONICA, California — During an exclusive interview with Breitbart News, former Mexican President Vicente Fox apologized Wednesday for the vulgar language he has used regarding GOP frontrunner Donald Trump's proposal to build a wall along the southern border and invited the likely Republican nominee to Mexico to see the border from the other side.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/04/president-fox-apologizes-invites-trump-mexico/

[jimmy olsen]

 
https://mobile.twitter.com/jbarro/status/727718036434780161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

FINDING: It's easier to do a hostile takeover of the Republican Party than to launch a successful competitor to Omaha Steaks.

[Martinus]

Man, the Onion was fucking prophetic. 

http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/ad...-dont-you-50895

Admit It: You People Want To See How Far This Goes, Don’t You?

COMMENTARY July 21, 2015
VOL 51 ISSUE 29  ·  Opinion · Election 2016 · Donald Trump

The latest polls are out, and just as I predicted, I’m leading the Republican presidential race by a wide margin. You might be wondering how that could be. After all, it’s hardly been a month since I entered the field and I’ve already alienated America’s largest immigrant population, seen dozens of my high-profile business deals implode one after the other, and publicly insulted a national hero’s military service, all while not offering a single viable policy idea. But none of that matters at all, and my candidacy continues to surge forward, because none of you—not a single one of you—can look away. Not even for a second.

Admit it: You people want to see just how far this goes, don’t you?

My campaign’s just barely begun and I’ve already got you begging for more. Sure, you can say you oppose me or that you don’t even take me seriously. But let me ask you: How many articles have you read about Ted Cruz lately? How many news segments have you watched on Bobby Jindal? Or Rand Paul? But if those stories have the name “Donald Trump” in them, well, look who suddenly can’t get enough.

The thing is, I’ve got all of you eating out of my hand and I haven’t even released a single campaign commercial yet. Don’t look me in the eye and tell me you don’t want to stick around and see what that looks like, because you and I both know these ads are going to be absolutely incredible. I’ll be standing there projecting my best presidential air, saying “I’m Donald Trump, and I approve this message,” and you won’t be able to take your eyes off it.

You keep obsessing over every little thing I do and say, and I promise you’ll get your commercials real soon.

And the TV spots are just the beginning. I know you, and I know what you like. You’ll absolutely eat it up when you see the “Trump ’16” T-shirts, the lawn signs, the bumper stickers; in fact, you’ll probably get a real kick out of pointing them out to your friends. Now, just imagine me shaking hands with senior citizens at a nursing home in Iowa. Wouldn’t you love to watch that? Or hear what comes out of my mouth when I speak to blue-collar workers at a struggling auto factory?

You say that doesn’t interest you? Oh, right, because you’re dying to see how Scott Walker behaves in those situations, right? Give me a break.

Just take a moment and imagine the primary debates: Jeb Bush; Chris Christie; me. Of course, they’ll put me in the middle because I’m ahead in the polls—far ahead at the moment. You already know how I answer even the most basic inquiries, so just picture me staring down the barrel of a question about foreign affairs or agriculture policy or something like that. You think you won’t sit there with bated breath while I try to tackle a question about using military force, or about food stamps, or about how my faith influences my decision-making? I guarantee you that my answers will be worth watching. And we both know you wouldn’t miss them for the world. It’d be the biggest, most-watched primary debate in history, courtesy of all of you.

And might I remind you that the longer this goes on, the closer I get to selecting a running mate. That realization kind of delighted you in a way, didn’t it? You absolutely want to know who I’d pick. A defeated GOP challenger who hates my guts? Another lunatic billionaire? Maybe my own son, Donald Trump Jr.? Whatever your wildest expectation is, I promise you I will surpass it. You’re not going to pass up an opportunity to see that, are you?

I can tell you’re practically salivating right now. And I’m going to keep riding this fascination, this little fixation you have with me as far as you’ll take me. You know I will.

So don’t try to tell me you’d be just as happy to watch one of these other bozos go toe-to-toe with Hillary Clinton or give a soaring speech at the national convention. And don’t delude yourself into thinking it’s everyone else who wants to watch me do this and you’re somehow above it. You want to see it. You want more. You hear “Trump” and your attention snaps to the TV screen right away.

Don’t think it’s true? Fine. You know what you have to do to make me go away. Just quit paying attention. Stop reading this right now.

That’s right, I didn’t think so. I have the power to make the next 16 months one of the most incredible times in our nation’s history, and not a single one of you can say you’re not at least a little bit curious to see how this wild ride shakes out. So just keep clicking every link that mentions my name and hitting play on every clip of my public appearances, and I promise you will not be disappointed.

Now, excuse me, but I have to go appear at a New Hampshire town hall and make a statement that every last one of you will be eagerly reading about and discussing in just a few hours’ time.

[Martinus]

SANTA MONICA, California — During an exclusive interview with Breitbart News, former Mexican President Vicente Fox apologized Wednesday for the vulgar language he has used regarding GOP frontrunner Donald Trump's proposal to build a wall along the southern border and invited the likely Republican nominee to Mexico to see the border from the other side.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/04/president-fox-apologizes-invites-trump-mexico/

Trump's response:

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump told former Mexican President Vicente Fox, who apologized to Trump for previous remarks he had made and invited Trump to Mexico, "Get your money ready because you're going to pay for the wall" on Wednesday's "O'Reilly Factor" on the Fox News Channel.

Trump said, in response to a question on whether he had a message for Fox, [relevant remarks begin around 3:40] "Get your money ready because you're going to pay for the wall."

Trump added that he wasn't backing off his plan to make Mexico pay for a border wall, and "we lose a fortune with mexico, trade deficit $58 billion a year. The wall's going to cost 10. believe me, they'll be able to afford it, and we're going to end up having a very good relationship with mexico. But right now, sadly, like everybody else, they're taking advantage of our country on trade, and at the border. So, we'll get it straightened out."

[Valmy]

Actually, the only annoying thing about the pro-Hillary camp is how hysterical you all get about Bernie Sanders. Like you'd vote Trump to avoid being placed in gulags.

I think Sander's policies are horrible and I don't like a lot of his supporters but I certainly do not hate the guy. I would vote for him before Trump. If for no other reason than the fact he would not be able to get much done.