2016 elections - because it's never too early

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Jacob on September 28, 2016, 12:09:13 AM
The Arizona Republic - publishing since 1890 - has never endorsed a Democrat. Today it endorsed Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump:

QuoteInstead of offering solutions, he hangs scapegoats like piñatas and invites people to take a swing.

Piñatas?  Really?  :lol:

HVC

The Arizona Republic has been infiltrated by Mexicans! They used proper accents and everything.  No red blooded American would do that.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

derspiess

Quote from: Jacob on September 28, 2016, 12:09:13 AM
The Arizona Republic - publishing since 1890 - has never endorsed a Democrat. Today it endorsed Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump:

Trump's road to victory depended heavily on The Arizona Republic endorsement.  Sorry Trumpies, he's done now.  Implosion begins in 5... 4... 3...
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

celedhring

That joke was stale about the 3rd time you forced it, and you're on the 32453th, give or take.

C'mon man, I have seen you do better.

garbon

I used to think guardian readers were sometime sane. A comment posted on the noted article.

Quote'How do we support a racist?' Young Republicans grapple with 2016 election

QuoteIn this election, the voters should not give the corporate media a victory. Our final grip with fingernails on the democratic process is gradually gradually getting cut-off by the main stream media.

The focus of this election should not be either Trump or Clinton, but to send a message to the main stream media that the people of this country cannot be manipulated to vote for a particular candidate, their obvious choice of Hillary Clinton.

Because, as for me and as a former Sanders supporter, I want to stop the corporate media from telling us whom to vote for. During the Democratic primary, the corporate media's ad nauseum negative campaign against Sen. Sanders and placing Hillary Clinton in a favorable light was an attack on the intelligence of voters.

I was hoping to vote for Jill Stein, now I will vote for Trump because in the long run it is worth to stop the corruption of our democratic process.
Now, the picture is painted that Hillary Clinton is Florence Nightingale and we should select her.

:tinfoil:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

derspiess

Quote from: celedhring on September 28, 2016, 07:47:44 AM
That joke was stale about the 3rd time you forced it, and you're on the 32453th, give or take.

C'mon man, I have seen you do better.

Hey, one of these days it will become true!
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

alfred russel

Quote from: Jacob on September 28, 2016, 12:56:10 AM

Perhaps this mirrors his strategy for getting Mexico to pay for "the wall"? Flood Mexicans with spam email?

Do you really think he will match contributions? I haven't seen any hard evidence Trump will contribute as much as $1m to his campaign (most of his "contributions" have been loans that can be paid back by other contributors).
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

derspiess

I'd contribute to Gary Johnson but he'd probably just buy weed with that money.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Jacob

The Trump Foundation work is quite something...

There's this article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-donald-trump-retooled-his-charity-to-spend-other-peoples-money/2016/09/10/da8cce64-75df-11e6-8149-b8d05321db62_story.html

QuoteTrump had earlier gone to a charity in New Jersey — the Charles Evans Foundation, named for a deceased businessman — and asked for a donation. Trump said he was raising money for the Palm Beach Police Foundation.

The Evans Foundation said yes. In 2009 and 2010, it gave a total of $150,000 to the Donald J. Trump Foundation, a small charity that the Republican presidential nominee founded in 1987.

Then, Trump's foundation turned around and made donations to the police group in South Florida. In those years, the Trump Foundation's gifts totaled $150,000.

Trump had effectively turned the Evans Foundation's gifts into his own gifts, without adding any money of his own.

On the night that he won the Palm Tree Award for his philanthropy, Trump may have actually made money. The gala was held at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, and the police foundation paid to rent the room. It's unclear how much was paid in 2010, but the police foundation reported in its tax filings that it rented Mar-a-Lago in 2014 for $276,463.

Also the money laundering story seems to be gaining legs - the story being that in lieu of getting paid, Trump got donations to his charity (tax free and tax deductible); then the charity would turn around and pay the full value of the money to Trump tax free.

Now, I've only seen this as chatter rather than substantiated stories at this point but that's pretty damning - and I think unambiguously criminal - if true.

derspiess

Yep, he's done for.  Hillary by a 20 point landslide.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on September 28, 2016, 01:58:36 PM
Yep, he's done for.  Hillary by a 20 point landslide.

:console:

Are you really going to follow every post that's not pro-Trump with that schtick?

garbon

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/sep/28/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-news-election-live?page=with:block-57ebf295e4b0757c529193c8#block-57ebf295e4b0757c529193c8

QuoteIs the old Trump back? After his lackluster debate outing Monday, Trump has been tweeting about #winning online surveys, bragging about "owning a lot of great property in Europe" and seeking credit for his heroic restraint in not reminding Hillary Clinton of her husband's extramarital transgressions.

"I'm really happy I was able to hold back on the indiscretions in respect to Bill Clinton. Because I have a lot of respect for Chelsea Clinton," Trump told CNN after the debate. "Maybe I'll tell you at the next debate. We'll see."

For second Trump son Eric Trump, the moment of Trump's not bringing up Monica Lewinsky was more than a moment of restraint. It was a moment of pride that will forever live in Eric Trump's heart, he told an Iowa radio host in an interview snagged by BuzzFeed:

"He could have just crushed her on that last question, you know, you would have probably hurt a family if he did and um, I don't know, I uh, I think that took a lot of courage in so many regards," Eric Trump said.

"And that was a big moment for me and probably will actually become — my life and this campaign — and probably will be something I'll always remember."

Eric Trump might actually be worse...
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Jacob on September 28, 2016, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 28, 2016, 01:58:36 PM
Yep, he's done for.  Hillary by a 20 point landslide.

:console:

Are you really going to follow every post that's not pro-Trump with that schtick?

He has a point.  There is no behavior that so outrageously beyond the pale that will impact his core constituency.  They are so outraged by the "system" that they couldn't care less they are voting for a disreputable scumbag in the running for the biggest jackass on the planet. 

It's like disgruntled passengers on the Titanic demanding ice cubes.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Jacob

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 28, 2016, 02:20:18 PM
He has a point.  There is no behavior that so outrageously beyond the pale that will impact his core constituency.  They are so outraged by the "system" that they couldn't care less they are voting for a disreputable scumbag in the running for the biggest jackass on the planet. 

It's like disgruntled passengers on the Titanic demanding ice cubes.

Sure, he has a point, but it seems a little silly to make that same point every time anyone says anything that isn't pro Trump.

frunk

"My dad was able to keep from insulting someone during a debate.  I'm so proud of him I'll always remember it."

Sometimes I think the Trumps are from some alternate universe where standards for personal behavior are waaay lower.