2016 elections - because it's never too early

[jimmy olsen]

What is hammering in your world, Tim?

Negative media attention of the kind that will help drive down his vote share among educated whites, and white women in general.

[garbon]

Seems unlikely. They denounced him, they just didn't want to use the word deplorable. Why would they want to agree/support Clinton's terminology?

[jimmy olsen]

Seems unlikely. They denounced him, they just didn't want to use the word deplorable.

What matters is the headline. If you have to explain the details you've lost.

[garbon]

I think you are dreaming. Who is getting hammered right now is Clinton.

[Martinus]

 

[jimmy olsen]

I think you are dreaming. Who is getting hammered right now is Clinton.

Same thing applies to her with regards to her health. It's the headline that matters, if you have to explain that it's just walking pneumonia, then you've already lost.

[garbon]

I think you are dreaming. Who is getting hammered right now is Clinton.

Same thing applies to her with regards to her health. It's the headline that matters, if you explain that it's just walking pneumonia, then you've already lost.

So no one is going to win now?

Face it, it was silly to suggest that the Trump campaign is going to lose a lot of votes because Mike Pence didn't call  David Duke deplorable. Kkk isn't even in the headline and a campaign that has run playing to racists all along? This isn't going to be some sort of wake up call - oh my, myrtle, I had no idea!

[jimmy olsen]

I think you are dreaming. Who is getting hammered right now is Clinton.

Same thing applies to her with regards to her health. It's the headline that matters, if you explain that it's just walking pneumonia, then you've already lost.

So no one is going to win now?

I mean they lost the news cycle.

As for the election as a whole, a 3 or 4 point Clinton win seems most likely at this point.

[Martinus]

The fact is, no matter what you think about Trump's supporters, Clinton's "deplorable" comment was a serious misstep, comparable to Romney's 47% comment. In fact, back in 2008, when Obama, in private, made a much more tame and less incendiary comment of a similar nature, Clinton (who was running against him in a primary) slammed him for his "elitism".

By the way, is it true that the deplorable comment was part of Clinton's scripted speech and not an off-hand remark? If so, who the hell is running her campaign and thought it would be a good idea?

[jimmy olsen]

The fact is, no matter what you think about Trump's supporters, Clinton's "deplorable" comment was a serious misstep, comparable to Romney's 47% comment. In fact, back in 2008, when Obama, in private, made a much more tame and less incendiary comment of a similar nature, Clinton (who was running against him in a primary) slammed him for his "elitism".

By the way, is it true that the deplorable comment was part of Clinton's scripted speech and not an off-hand remark? If so, who the hell is running her campaign and thought it would be a good idea?

Presumably to bait Trump and co into doing what Mike Pence just did, refuse to call a Grand Wizard of the KKK deplorable.

[Martinus]

The fact is, no matter what you think about Trump's supporters, Clinton's "deplorable" comment was a serious misstep, comparable to Romney's 47% comment. In fact, back in 2008, when Obama, in private, made a much more tame and less incendiary comment of a similar nature, Clinton (who was running against him in a primary) slammed him for his "elitism".

By the way, is it true that the deplorable comment was part of Clinton's scripted speech and not an off-hand remark? If so, who the hell is running her campaign and thought it would be a good idea?

Presumably to bait Trump and co into doing what Mike Pence just did, refuse to call a Grand Wizard of the KKK deplorable.

Yes, sure. 

[Martinus]

[Zoupa]

[garbon]

The fact is, no matter what you think about Trump's supporters, Clinton's "deplorable" comment was a serious misstep, comparable to Romney's 47% comment. In fact, back in 2008, when Obama, in private, made a much more tame and less incendiary comment of a similar nature, Clinton (who was running against him in a primary) slammed him for his "elitism".

By the way, is it true that the deplorable comment was part of Clinton's scripted speech and not an off-hand remark? If so, who the hell is running her campaign and thought it would be a good idea?

I disagree. Republicans want to paint it as part with Romney's but it isn't. Politically unsavvy as it turns out, it does actually have the benefit of probably being close to the truth. It isn't large scale contempt for the electorate like the Romans moment - but deserving contempt for a small portion that love Trump's dogwhistling.

[Martinus]

The fact is, no matter what you think about Trump's supporters, Clinton's "deplorable" comment was a serious misstep, comparable to Romney's 47% comment. In fact, back in 2008, when Obama, in private, made a much more tame and less incendiary comment of a similar nature, Clinton (who was running against him in a primary) slammed him for his "elitism".

By the way, is it true that the deplorable comment was part of Clinton's scripted speech and not an off-hand remark? If so, who the hell is running her campaign and thought it would be a good idea?

I disagree. Republicans want to paint it as part with Romney's but it isn't. Politically unsavvy as it turns out, it does actually have the benefit of probably being close to the truth. It isn't large scale contempt for the electorate like the Romans moment - but deserving contempt for a small portion that love Trump's dogwhistling.

And Romney's comment wasn't close to the truth? I think much more than this one, at least in terms of numbers.