New "whore pill" for the US ( und der Spieß ?)

[derspiess]

  Never mind.  This is obviously a touchy issue for you.

You're retreating because the side effect argument was proven false?

I guess.  ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU WANT

[merithyn]

You're always touch on women's issues.  But fine, no prescription then.  No consultation or anything.  If it's non-prescription, then hopefully I'll at least not have to share the cost through my group health insurance plan.

This is actually why I was so curious as to your reluctance to make it OTC. The benefits to you are far larger with it as an OTC med than as a prescription. And since it's not an abortion pill (if you're pregnant, it won't end the pregnancy), I didn't understand why you would want it restricted on that front.

You win this one, Meri.  But I'm not budging on the chorizo front.

I wasn't out for a "win", but thanks.

And I'll concede that my understanding of the word chorizo may be singular rather than global.

[garbon]

I don't particularly want anything with regards to birth control.

[dps]

I don't particularly want anything with regards to birth control.

Aw, come on.  I'm sure there's people that you'd want it retroactively applied to.

[Fate]

I don't have any ethical problem with the pill's availability, but it seems like it ought to require a prescription given the side effects.

All of which are less than aspirin or other NSAIDs. High dose progestins are about as safe as you can get. And you're at a lower chance of death if you terminate the pregnancy than if you carried it to term. Pregnancy has a lot of side effects that never went through the FDA approval process including but not limited to gestational diabetes, gestational hypertension, preeclampsia, placental abruption, deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary embolism, and endometritis.

[merithyn]

He's already acquiesced, proto-doc.

[garbon]

He's already acquiesced, proto-doc.

Yeah we'd already finished him off. *high-five*

[merithyn]

He's already acquiesced, proto-doc.

Yeah we'd already finished him off. *high-five*

And all without an almost-medical degree.

[Fate]

But let's back up for a second.  Don't these pills work sort of like taking multiple dosages of birth control pills?  Those still require a prescription, don't they?

Estrogen in birth control needs to be regulated at point of care because it should be kept away from women at risk of blood clots (particularly smokers >35). Not all birth control contains estrogen. Plan B contains high dose progesterone analogs which don't increase blood clot risks.

Honestly I don't see a reason to keep women from buying progesterone OCPs over the counter. But it's just how it is. OB/gyns just want am excuse to see 50% of the sexually active population every year.

[Admiral Yi]

OB/gyns just want am excuse to see 50% of the sexually active population every year.

[MadImmortalMan]

If that's the case, we should open the floodgates & make a bunch of other stuff available without prescription.

We should, actually.