The Talent Shortage Myth and Why HR Should Get Out of the Hiring Business

Started by Caliga, April 02, 2013, 12:08:40 PM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Ideologue on April 03, 2013, 09:35:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 03, 2013, 09:20:21 PM
Drunk driver killed my fiancé. IT IS A SORE SPOT.

I'm sorry to hear that.  I didn't know about it.

Unfortunately, none of my ex-girlfriends were in any accidents.
And don't think I wasn't tossing my share of pennies into the fucking wishing well, either.

katmai

Quote from: Ideologue on April 03, 2013, 09:35:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 03, 2013, 09:20:21 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 03, 2013, 09:17:46 PM
You realize there are approximately five times as many years into my adulthood since then, than before then, right?  Oh well.  Thanks for being honest.

Also interested in Cal's take, tho.

Drunk driver killed my fiancé. IT IS A SORE SPOT.

I'm sorry to hear that.  I didn't know about it.

He's mentioned it before you insensitive ass.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

CountDeMoney

Quote from: katmai on April 03, 2013, 09:37:49 PM
He's mentioned it before you insensitive ass.

Hey, he got another one, didn't he?


OK, that was fucked up.

katmai

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive


Razgovory

Quote from: garbon on April 03, 2013, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 03, 2013, 09:08:27 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 03, 2013, 09:06:50 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 03, 2013, 09:05:33 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 03, 2013, 09:03:01 PM
On the obvious jokes which I'm sure are so funny, on answering, or on hiring?

Both. I personally would find the DUI most offensive.

You're so full of shit.

Nope. Lack of self control. Pass.

Because assault and battery speaks to a high degree of self control.

Done right it does!
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 03, 2013, 09:39:24 PM
Hey, lay off Ide. His slight frame makes him fragile.

I'm pretty sure anything that katmai lays on turns out to be fragile.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Ideologue

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 03, 2013, 09:44:30 PM
About assault and battery, some people need a good beating.

Fwiw, the only reason I took the plea is because it was overcharged absurdly high to a felony, and it seemed like a bad risk to attempt a self-defense affirmative defense, even one let's say 80% likely to succeed due to my history with the alleged victim, his size (I was 5'10", 155 at the time, he was about 6'2", 220) and his own violent reputation, when the cost of failure was up to three years in prison, when the alternative, a plea, let me walk away $800 lighter. 

Regarding the history, we'd had two previous altercations.  The first time he was being a too-old-for-that-kind-of-shit bully, and I was extremely young (17 I think tops), but I did kind of start it by not taking his nonsense, and he wound up with a broken hand.  Obviously not particularly forgiving, a year or so later, he he showed up to a mutual friend's house after I'd fallen asleep (or passed out, but that's not illegal), recognized me, and beat me roughly half to death.  Guess how far filing a police report got?  If you guessed a police officer refused to file an A+B report after a man with a severely contused face and neck, covered in blood, and still bleeding showed up at the station, you'd be right.  The points there is that I did try to use legal channels.

Anyway, in point of fact, on this third occasion, he was already assaulting (threatening with imminent unwanted bodily contact, and the really harmful kind, reasonably apprehended) me and I simply did not wait for the first blow to fall, which does not negate a claim to self-defense (and is one supposes the stupid way to go about trying to avoid injury or death).  I'm still pretty happy that I fucked up his face semi-permanently (I understand that he still has troubles with his nose and sinuses).  But in retrospect, I would trade a savage beating any day, and on some really bad days I've been prepared to trade death, for all the trouble that night has caused me since.

So.  To the law, and an unrestrained private sector meting out collateral consequences forever till you're old and get on social security, if you've even been allowed to work long enough to qualify! :cheers:

P.S.: The rest was, of course, totally my fault.  100%.  And I do feel bad about that, especially how stupid and avoidable all of it was.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Razgovory

Quote from: Ideologue on April 03, 2013, 10:08:42 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 03, 2013, 09:44:30 PM
About assault and battery, some people need a good beating.

Fwiw, the only reason I took the plea is because it was overcharged absurdly high to a felony, and it seemed like a bad risk to attempt a self-defense affirmative defense, even one let's say 80% likely to succeed due to my history with the alleged victim, his size (I was 5'10", 155 at the time, he was about 6'2", 220) and his own violent reputation, when the cost of failure was up to three years in prison, when the alternative, a plea, let me walk away $800 lighter. 

Regarding the history, we'd had two previous altercations.  The first time he was being a too-old-for-that-kind-of-shit bully, and I was extremely young (17 I think tops), but I did kind of start it by not taking his nonsense, and he wound up with a broken hand.  Obviously not particularly forgiving, a year or so later, he he showed up to a mutual friend's house after I'd fallen asleep (or passed out, but that's not illegal), recognized me, and beat me roughly half to death.  Guess how far filing a police report got?  If you guessed a police officer refused to file an A+B report after a man with a severely contused face and neck, covered in blood, and still bleeding showed up at the station, you'd be right.  The points there is that I did try to use legal channels.

Anyway, in point of fact, on this third occasion, he was already assaulting (threatening with imminent unwanted bodily contact, and the really harmful kind, reasonably apprehended) me and I simply did not wait for the first blow to fall, which does not negate a claim to self-defense (and is one supposes the stupid way to go about trying to avoid injury or death).  I'm still pretty happy that I fucked up his face semi-permanently (I understand that he still has troubles with his nose and sinuses).  But in retrospect, I would trade a savage beating any day, and on some really bad days I've been prepared to trade death, for all the trouble that night has caused me since.

So.  To the law, and an unrestrained private sector meting out collateral consequences forever till you're old and get on social security, if you've even been allowed to work long enough to qualify! :cheers:

P.S.: The rest was, of course, totally my fault.  100%.  And I do feel bad about that, especially how stupid and avoidable all of it was.

Were you passed out because you were drunk, cause I think that's illegal if you are 18.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

CountDeMoney

If only Ideologue spent as much time and effort on his legal career as he does on beating people's faces like pizza dough.