The Talent Shortage Myth and Why HR Should Get Out of the Hiring Business

[Neil]

And that's why you really can't blame HR.  It's lawyers that have ruined everything, as always.

And yet lawyers would never rely on HR for hiring decisions . . .

Of course not.  Your dark priesthood doesn't need HR buy indulgences from HR.  They have a closer relationship with the source.

[Neil]

And that's why you really can't blame HR.  It's lawyers that have ruined everything, as always.

And yet lawyers would never rely on HR for hiring decisions . . .

Which is another reason everyone with HR degrees should be taken out and shot.  They're just one more facet of the de-lawyerization of legal services.  Also, regulatory compliance employees.  Especially regulatory compliance employees.

How about everyone over 35?

Wouldn't it make more sense to kill the lawyers, as it is their evil that forces HR to exist?

[Razgovory]

What, by generating profits therefore requiring people to be hired?

[11B4V]

HR should die a thousand deaths. I am still picking the knives out of my back.

HR  Fucking usless twats.

[Iormlund]

As an aside, I recently saw a situation where there was a group of managers that were not particularly competent at the technical stuff they were supposed to handle. Someone apparently came to the decision that the easiest way to deal with this was to guide them into less technical matters in the department, for example, bringing on board new employees. The problem with this strategy became apparent when some new hires were found to be lacking some basic skills.

Actually--this is probably related to how people end up in HR, and then screwing up the hiring process.

How did those managers enter the company in the first place?

[Grallon]

How did those managers enter the company in the first place?

They juggled with buzzwords?




G.

[Malthus]

Law's a great example of words that to an outsider are baffling and sound like they're trying to confuse, but are actually clarifying.

Well, *should* be. Reading some agreements allegedly drafted by lawyers ... 

[alfred russel]

As an aside, I recently saw a situation where there was a group of managers that were not particularly competent at the technical stuff they were supposed to handle. Someone apparently came to the decision that the easiest way to deal with this was to guide them into less technical matters in the department, for example, bringing on board new employees. The problem with this strategy became apparent when some new hires were found to be lacking some basic skills.

Actually--this is probably related to how people end up in HR, and then screwing up the hiring process.

How did those managers enter the company in the first place?

In this case, they were acquired through a merger.

[Josquius]

For larger companies, HR is needed in the recruiting process. If you look at most companies, the higher paying positions are overwhelmingly male and white (compared at least to the general population). If you decentralize the process, in a lawsuit you are asking to get hammered. A lawyer finds a couple cases where it seems like there might be discrimination, you then look at the makeup of the company as a whole, and you have a solid case that there is a culture of discrimination.

With HR, you get relatively comprehensive CYA. You can document how you reach out to minority groups, detailed descriptions of non racial / gender discrimination searches to identify target candidates, and then documentation of why the interview process selected the candidate to hire that it did.

HR is nothing more than a compliance machine.  They're simply there to check off the EEOC boxes at the end of the application.
YES I AM A NON-HISPANIC WHITE MALE OF EUROPEAN DESCENT I'LL ACCEPT MY REJECTION EMAIL NOW

I wonder if claiming to be bi on those stupid sections would up my chances

[fhdz]

They don't ask questions about your sexual orientation.

[Josquius]

They don't ask questions about your sexual orientation.

Several I've encountered do.

[Ed Anger]

They don't ask questions about your sexual orientation.

The EEOC creams its pants every time somebody does.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

They don't ask questions about your sexual orientation.

The EEOC creams its pants every time somebody does.

I think he is talking about the "voluntary" sections the EEOC and its international equivalents make employers put there.

[stjaba]

They don't ask questions about your sexual orientation.

The EEOC creams its pants every time somebody does.

There is no federal law against discrimination relating to sexual orientation, so the EEOC likely doesn't give a shit.

Some states do have laws that prohibit sexual orientation discrimination.

[Ed Anger]

Fuck, I'm been too nice to the weirdos when I didn't have to be. Damn HR.