NCAA football, 2013-14

[Valmy]

Holy crap I just realized West Virginia lost of Iowa State last Saturday.  Oh for Godsake WV you have to fire Dana now.  No Big 12 coach should be allowed to survive losing to Kansas and Iowa State in the same season.  They should have dumped all his stuff on the sidewalk and changed the locks on his office as soon as the game ended.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Wasn't it in triple OT or some such?  I know I saw parts of it, but couldn't recall who won.

Apparently Luck came out and said they were hanging on to Holgo, for whatever that is worth.

[derspiess]

Holy crap I just realized West Virginia lost of Iowa State last Saturday.  Oh for Godsake WV you have to fire Dana now.  No Big 12 coach should be allowed to survive losing to Kansas and Iowa State in the same season.  They should have dumped all his stuff on the sidewalk and changed the locks on his office as soon as the game ended.

Uh, yeah.  It's pathetic how low the program has sunk under his leadership.  I'd understand some minor slippage in adjusting to a new, more competitive conference.  But he's just a terrible head coach in every respect.  He was a great OC, but can't handle the responsibility of running an entire team.  He doesn't manage games well at all, seems to be a terrible recruiter, and filled the coaching staff with his drinking buddies who are all pretty poor coaches themselves.  WVU should have hired Doc Holliday instead of him.

Problem right now is his buyout is apparently over $11 million.  I've read that it drops to $2 million after next year.  So if that's true I can't blame the university for not shitcanning him just yet.  On the other hand, you have to factor in lower ticket sales and the possibility of alumni holding out on contributions, as nobody is happy with him.

[alfred russel]

Bring back Bill Stewart. It could be like Weekend at Bernies.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Holy crap I just realized West Virginia lost of Iowa State last Saturday.  Oh for Godsake WV you have to fire Dana now.  No Big 12 coach should be allowed to survive losing to Kansas and Iowa State in the same season.  They should have dumped all his stuff on the sidewalk and changed the locks on his office as soon as the game ended.

Uh, yeah.  It's pathetic how low the program has sunk under his leadership.  I'd understand some minor slippage in adjusting to a new, more competitive conference.  But he's just a terrible head coach in every respect.  He was a great OC, but can't handle the responsibility of running an entire team.  He doesn't manage games well at all, seems to be a terrible recruiter, and filled the coaching staff with his drinking buddies who are all pretty poor coaches themselves.  WVU should have hired Doc Holliday instead of him.

Problem right now is his buyout is apparently over $11 million.  I've read that it drops to $2 million after next year.  So if that's true I can't blame the university for not shitcanning him just yet.  On the other hand, you have to factor in lower ticket sales and the possibility of alumni holding out on contributions, as nobody is happy with him.

Actually they didn't stipulate a buyout for DH, whenever he is terminated without cause he continues to receive his owed money annually until the year his contract runs out. The only difference is, once fired he will receive his annual contract salary in one annual lump sum each year instead of in the form of a monthly paycheck as he does now. So if the fire him at the end of next season he will receive three more lump sum payments of $2.7m, $2.8m, and $2.9m--which is exactly what he would be owed if he coached in 2015, 2016, and 2017. Then there are two bonuses of almost random amounts, $50,000 and $300,000 that he gets as long as he isn't fired for cause and doesn't quit. Meaning if he is "fired for convenience" he still gets the bonuses which from what I can tell are intended to be types of retention bonuses. If they fired him right now he'd be owed $10.9m + the $350k in bonuses, paid out in a regular schedule. If they fire him at the end of next season it's $8.75m over three years for not coaching football vs $11.25m over four years for not coaching football if he is fired now.

Most significantly there is no clause about him losing the money if he takes work elsewhere, most likely he'd find another OC position earning at least $250-300k (more likely $400-500k in today's atmosphere) and would still be drawing head coach payouts annually.

If DH leaves on his own "for convenience" he owes the university $2m.

[derspiess]

Yuck.  WVU has made some really shitty decisions with the last two coaches and their contracts. 

[jimmy olsen]

Woah, that's an insanely awful contract. (or insanely awesome if you're the coach)

[alfred russel]

This happened at the Arizona State - Arizona game and imo is even more awesome than the Auburn return for a touchdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CYq1O76rEg

God I love college football.

[Berkut]

ASU is always making the news for the right reasons.

[alfred russel]

ASU is always making the news for the right reasons.

The old guy is wearing blue. That could be an arizona fan. In which case, he has more fight in him than the rest of the Arizona Wildcats put together.

Probably not an Arizona fan though.

[Berkut]

ASU is always making the news for the right reasons.

The old guy is wearing blue. That could be an arizona fan. In which case, he has more fight in him than the rest of the Arizona Wildcats put together.

Probably not an Arizona fan though.

If he is an Arizona fan, we should see if he has any eligibility left.

[PDH]

Hey, Katamai.  Get ready for Petersen and the Boisification of Washington!

[katmai]

Hey, Katamai.  Get ready for Petersen and the Boisification of Washington!

That is what ESPN is saying, but it was quick 90min meeting last night so unsure of the veracity of the ESPN report.

[jimmy olsen]

No knock on Washington, but I'm surprised he couldn't get a better job than that.

[katmai]

He turned down Stanford, UCLA and USC before.


And fuck you fucking douchebag retard.