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Started by grumbler, March 21, 2013, 07:27:00 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: katmai on December 02, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
He's a perfect fit for Wazzu.
We expect better for the Huskies.

Yeah he is definitely best fit for a Texas Tech type program like Wazzu. 
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Suppose Ohio State, Florida State, and Auburn all get upset in their conference title games.  Who do you figure plays for the BCS title then?  Missouri vs. Alabama?  Missouri vs a 1-loss Big 12 champ (either Oklahoma State or Baylor--if they don't both lose this week)?  Some other matchup?

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Probably Missouri vs. Alabama
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 03, 2013, 02:20:20 AM
Probably Missouri vs. Alabama

I'd love to see the BCS go out with such a whimper.  Would there be any Tide fans in attendance at all?  I'm pretty sure the TV audience would only be three Alabama fans, 300,000 Missouri fans (and their families), and four bandwagoneers who don't understand what is happening.
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I honestly don't know, if all lose I'd put 1 loss Alabama ahead of Ohio State and Missouri for sure, and two loss Auburn would be out of the picture.

So the question is who do you give a shot against 1 loss 'Bama...Mizzou, OSU, or Florida State. I think OSU is out because of weak schedule. I like to think as highly ranked as FSU is maybe they could sneak in as #2 so it'd at least be an interesting game...probably would end up being a terrible matchup between Bama and Mizzou, though.

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You can't really disqualify FSU or OSU on the basis of weak schedule without disqualifying both for that reason.
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Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 03, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
You can't really disqualify FSU or OSU on the basis of weak schedule without disqualifying both for that reason.

You can disqualify OSU for having some very close calls against a weak schedule.

FSU's closest game was against Boston College where they won by 14. Every other game has been won by at least something like 27-28 points. I don't think FSU has ever at any point in the season led by less than 10 in the fourth quarter.

Ohio State has had several very close calls, including benefiting from a late and questionable officiating decision against Northwestern.
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Valmy

Yeah the arguments were used against Alabama in the 1992 title game and against Ohio State in the 2002 title game right?  They had weak schedules and just barely beat their opponents?

How did those go again?

Besides in our scenario FSU just lost to Duke so...
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Quote from: alfred russel on December 03, 2013, 02:22:06 PM
Ohio State has had several very close calls, including benefiting from a late and questionable officiating decision against Northwestern.

Oh? Tell me more.
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Quote from: dps on December 03, 2013, 02:13:14 AM
Suppose Ohio State, Florida State, and Auburn all get upset in their conference title games.  Who do you figure plays for the BCS title then?  Missouri vs. Alabama?  Missouri vs a 1-loss Big 12 champ (either Oklahoma State or Baylor--if they don't both lose this week)?  Some other matchup?

NIU! NIU!
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Valmy

The glorious Big 12 champion will have the honor of matching up with NIU.  Prepare for the clash of the titans!

Highest rated Fiesta Bowl ever am I right?
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Quote from: Valmy on December 03, 2013, 03:14:25 PM
Besides in our scenario FSU just lost to Duke so...

It is a silly scenario.
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Quote from: Valmy on December 03, 2013, 04:54:07 PM
The glorious Big 12 champion will have the honor of matching up with NIU.  Prepare for the clash of the titans!

Highest rated Fiesta Bowl ever am I right?

I'd watch it just to see how Lynch does against some tougher competition.
One of the BCS computer systems has NIU ranked 2nd, although I think it is an artifact of the way BCS rigs the computer rankings.
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Valmy

Quote from: Berkut on December 03, 2013, 03:41:53 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on December 03, 2013, 02:22:06 PM
Ohio State has had several very close calls, including benefiting from a late and questionable officiating decision against Northwestern.

Oh? Tell me more.

They were PAC 12 officials.
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Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 03, 2013, 05:41:14 PM
I'd watch it just to see how Lynch does against some tougher competition.
One of the BCS computer systems has NIU ranked 2nd, although I think it is an artifact of the way BCS rigs the computer rankings.

Perfect timing! I come out as Dorsey right when JR starts posting in the college football thread.

There was some academic that analyzed the BCS computer rankings and came to two conclusions: one of the rankings took into account scores, and another took into account previous year's games. This year Sagarin broke out a new formula, speculated to comply with the rules (his was the one that supposedly looked at scores), and is now putting out jacked up results.

In case you are wondering, all the ranking formulas are secret, except for one. And in the one that is not secret, several years ago someone noticed a anomolous result: it turned out the data input missed a game.

This is the system that determines 1/3 of a national championship game.

As for NIU, they got smoked by FSU last year, and they had close calls this year.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014