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Started by grumbler, March 21, 2013, 07:27:00 PM

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alfred russel

Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2013, 02:36:35 PM
Well when he took the job they just had an 0-12 season.  He was not taking over a powerhouse here.

Okay, but they were 7-6 last year (year 4) and 8-4 this year (year 5).

He might have taken over a dumpster fire, but he is coaching the Washington Huskies. That should be a quality program. His record the last couple of years is not impressive.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Barrister on December 02, 2013, 02:21:27 PM
Single greatest football play ever was the Roughriders Defence getting called for having 13 men on the field when the Alouettes missed a dieing second game-winning  field goal, which allowed  the Als to score the FG on the re-kick and win the 97the Grey Cup.

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Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2013, 02:00:30 PM
Secondly I am pretty sure Xavier only plays Basketball.

Well obviously there's a reason they only play basketball.  After losing to Marshall they probably figured they might as well throw in the towel on football.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 02, 2013, 02:44:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 02, 2013, 02:21:27 PM
Single greatest football play ever was the Roughriders Defence getting called for having 13 men on the field when the Alouettes missed a dieing second game-winning  field goal, which allowed  the Als to score the FG on the re-kick and win the 97the Grey Cup.

Save your weirdo Canuckistani sports for the Curling Thread.

Its sad that the best play BB has ever seen is one involving an inability to count. 

katmai

Quote from: alfred russel on December 02, 2013, 02:43:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2013, 02:36:35 PM
Well when he took the job they just had an 0-12 season.  He was not taking over a powerhouse here.

Okay, but they were 7-6 last year (year 4) and 8-4 this year (year 5).

He might have taken over a dumpster fire, but he is coaching the Washington Huskies. That should be a quality program. His record the last couple of years is not impressive.

In the 5 seasons before Steve Sarkisian arrived in Seattle, Washington went 12-47; under Sarkisian, the Huskies are 34-29.

That being said, I'm very curious to see who they get to come in, the first two names being talked about are Petersen from Boise and Jim Mora from UCLA
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Valmy

I know UCLA is cheap as hell but that would be a bizarre move for Mora.
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Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2013, 04:27:33 PM
I know UCLA is cheap as hell but that would be a bizarre move for Mora.

He is a graduate of UW.
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grumbler

Quote from: dps on December 02, 2013, 01:49:49 PM
I have to say that the fact that the PAC-12 insists on having its officials work all its OOC games (a demand that no other FBS conference makes AFAIK) does create unfortunate implications.  But it's certainly not proof of bias on the part of those officials.

I don't know that the Pac still do this, I just know that they used to do it.
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Valmy

Quote from: Berkut on December 02, 2013, 04:31:13 PM
UW should try to get Leach! He is a fine coach.

I don't think him moving to UW is going to save Arizona from his fearsome wrath.
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Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 01, 2013, 11:16:33 PM
QuoteThe Big Ten is crap compared to the SEC.

It's still the Big Ten, dude.  We aren't talking about some team from the WAC here.

Yeah I'd love to see Ohio State kept out of the title game but it's unlikely a Big Ten school that has been in the upper part of the rankings all year is going to get jumped. There's actually no precedent for an undefeated team from a BCS conference being jumped and pushed out of the 1/2 spots by a team with one loss. The BCS does a good job of preventing true travesties like BYU being awarded a national title in a year in which their best opponent was 6-6 Michigan in the Holiday Bowl, but it doesn't do a good job at handling genuine strength of schedule differences between schools that have "prestige" in the major conferences. Maybe if they hadn't intentionally watered down all of the computer rankings and hadn't changed the formula to make the two human polls 2/3rds of the formula it would do a better job with this. But instead they opted to make it so that it would always be the "perceived" #1/#2 that play, to minimize controversy.

Valmy

Quote from: katmai on December 02, 2013, 04:28:22 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 02, 2013, 04:27:33 PM
I know UCLA is cheap as hell but that would be a bizarre move for Mora.

He is a graduate of UW.

Do you think that is why Sark is leaving?  Surely that kind of thing is not a big deal.
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Valmy

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on December 02, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on December 01, 2013, 11:16:33 PM
QuoteThe Big Ten is crap compared to the SEC.

It's still the Big Ten, dude.  We aren't talking about some team from the WAC here.

Yeah I'd love to see Ohio State kept out of the title game but it's unlikely a Big Ten school that has been in the upper part of the rankings all year is going to get jumped. There's actually no precedent for an undefeated team from a BCS conference being jumped and pushed out of the 1/2 spots by a team with one loss. The BCS does a good job of preventing true travesties like BYU being awarded a national title in a year in which their best opponent was 6-6 Michigan in the Holiday Bowl, but it doesn't do a good job at handling genuine strength of schedule differences between schools that have "prestige" in the major conferences. Maybe if they hadn't intentionally watered down all of the computer rankings and hadn't changed the formula to make the two human polls 2/3rds of the formula it would do a better job with this. But instead they opted to make it so that it would always be the "perceived" #1/#2 that play, to minimize controversy.

Well right because then you get 2003 with Oklahoma over USC.

Anyway the BCS is just a few weeks from being dead and buried.
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Quote from: grumbler on December 02, 2013, 04:32:03 PM
Quote from: dps on December 02, 2013, 01:49:49 PM
I have to say that the fact that the PAC-12 insists on having its officials work all its OOC games (a demand that no other FBS conference makes AFAIK) does create unfortunate implications.  But it's certainly not proof of bias on the part of those officials.

I don't know that the Pac still do this, I just know that they used to do it.

I think the insistence is that they use Pac-12 officials for all non-conference home games (as opposed to using a mixed crew). I think.

I would have no problem with conference assignors just getting officials from a third conference for non-conference match ups, at least between BCS schools.

However, the problem is going to be one of mechanics and procedure. There is a LOT of mechanics and procedure to officiating, and the issue with using non-home conference officials is that it is likely a much larger hassle to deal with those things - stuff like when you go out on the field, rules interpretations, mechanics interpretations, signals, even crap like transportation and hotels - all those things have "standards" set for them for the officials on a per-conference basis. Even pay, for that matter. The SEC, for example, pays quite a bit better than everyone else - and supposedly they can and do poach the best officials from other conferences.
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