Would you consider your spouse getting fat a good reason for divorce?

[Legbiter]

Yeah, like your meal plan is boring as hell. I'd give it up after about a week, IF I lasted that long. Rule #1 of any diet plan: It has to be something you can and will stick with.

That IMO highlights one of the big problems.  People find healthy meals boring, and treat eating them like taking a medicine.  They're brought up on exactly the kind of foods that are terrible for them.  Of course healthy eating is not going to work long-term in that case without some kind of strong psychological reinforcement.

In that sense I feel that I'm very lucky, because I actually enjoy eating salads and vegetables, feel mostly indifferent about deep-fried food, and abhor overly complex fatty meals.  Few things beat a fresh Greek salad with a good dressing based on extra virgin olive oil.  If I could only loose that sweet tooth, I would be golden.

I had never really thought about it, but a gal pointed to me the other day how I eat unusually healthy food for the typical bachelor. My diet hasn't come as a conscious decision, though. I guess I'm fortunate not to like fast food. My diet is typically based on rice, legumes and dark vegetables (now that I can finally eat them), eggs, lots of olive oil and some meat or fish 5 or so times a week -- mostly pork, chicken, salmon, tuna, megrim and swordfish. Also, no alcohol.

Perhaps because of this I'm one of 2 people in the office without cholesterol, triglycerides or blood pressure problems -- and the other guy is a physical portent (used to be a pro athlete).

I eat pretty similar to you (minus the legumes) and I can't fault the results. I'm not that fond of salad per se, I'll have moderate portions of it and often use it as a fat delivery veichle by drenching it in EVOO or sautéing them in the pan. But the rabbit food in and of itself is just condiment around the steak.

[Legbiter]

Eh it is not like you need a good reason to leave a girlfriend.  It is not like you are married.  I mean they were what...23?  Besides the whole depression and developing physical problems sounds like a bit of a buzz kill.

He did the right thing.

[merithyn]

Berk, you can definitely tell what causes sleep apnea. It's part of the tests they run.

Actually no.  The tests they run can indicate that sleep apnea exists but  the condition has multiple causes and in people who are obese the obesity itself is one of the contributing causes.

If by test they run you mean the say, hey you are fat and that is one of the things that causes sleep anpnea then yes that is something they will say - the doctor will then recommend that the patient lose wieght.

So how come when my son was diagnosed with it, they said that it was central sleep apnea due to a signal in his brain that was shorting and causing his body to stop breathing while he slept? And how is it that people are regularly diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea due to enlarged tonsils and adnoids? And there are those who are regularly diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea due to too much fat on their necks causing the obstruction?

When it's fat, they say, "Lose weight and it will go away." But that doesn't mean that every person who has obstructive sleep apnea will get better if they lose weight. And yes, the doctor can usually tell one way or the other if it will help.

[Razgovory]

I wonder if Meri would be so passionate about this if a man wrote the article about his experiences being fat.

[merithyn]

Fat acceptance = Delusion and narcissism given a spin on the female rationalization hamster wheel.

That's pretty much it.

Right. It couldn't possibly be that there are those out there who just don't find overweight people as repugnant as others.



I'm done. You all win. Fat people should be put to death to save the rest of us from having to deal with their obvious and horrible medical issues, and just their plain disgusting forms. Extra weight means a horrible death, getting worse for every extra pound that's carried. Better to end it while they're just 10 pounds overweight and be done with it. That will save you poor, overly athletic and healthy men from having to deal with any unsightly jiggle, too.

Peace out.

[derspiess]

I wonder if Meri would be so passionate about this if a man wrote the article about his experiences being fat.

  "You'll take the abuse and like it, Mister!!"

[garbon]

Fat acceptance = Delusion and narcissism given a spin on the female rationalization hamster wheel.

That's pretty much it.

Right. It couldn't possibly be that there are those out there who just don't find overweight people as repugnant as others.



I'm done. You all win. Fat people should be put to death to save the rest of us from having to deal with their obvious and horrible medical issues, and just their plain disgusting forms. Extra weight means a horrible death, getting worse for every extra pound that's carried. Better to end it while they're just 10 pounds overweight and be done with it. That will save you poor, overly athletic and healthy men from having to deal with any unsightly jiggle, too.

Peace out.

That's a very odd response, Meri. I don't see how that fits into the tenor or context of anything discussed in this thread.

[DGuller]

I eat pretty similar to you (minus the legumes) and I can't fault the results. I'm not that fond of salad per se, I'll have moderate portions of it and often use it as a fat delivery veichle by drenching it in EVOO or sautéing them in the pan. But the rabbit food in and of itself is just condiment around the steak.

When I was little, some adults actually did call me a rabbit, because I liked eating raw cabbage and carrots. 

[Valmy]

That's a very odd response, Meri. I don't see how that fits into the tenor or context of anything discussed in this thread.

Spicey and Legbiter trolled her good there.

[Malthus]

I eat pretty similar to you (minus the legumes) and I can't fault the results. I'm not that fond of salad per se, I'll have moderate portions of it and often use it as a fat delivery veichle by drenching it in EVOO or sautéing them in the pan. But the rabbit food in and of itself is just condiment around the steak.

When I was little, some adults actually did call me a rabbit, because I liked eating raw cabbage and carrots. 

Well, I certainly hope it wasn't from your habit of shitting little pellets of poo all over the floor whenever you felt like it. 

[Martinus]

I eat pretty similar to you (minus the legumes) and I can't fault the results. I'm not that fond of salad per se, I'll have moderate portions of it and often use it as a fat delivery veichle by drenching it in EVOO or sautéing them in the pan. But the rabbit food in and of itself is just condiment around the steak.

When I was little, some adults actually did call me a rabbit, because I liked eating raw cabbage and carrots. 

Ah, nothing like Eastern European parenting when it comes to instilling proper dieting habits.

[Legbiter]

Right. It couldn't possibly be that there are those out there who just don't find overweight people as repugnant as others.

Naw, if anyone actually hates fatties it's the "fat acceptance" enablers.

[Martinus]

Right. It couldn't possibly be that there are those out there who just don't find overweight people as repugnant as others.

Naw, if anyone actually hates fatties it's the "fat acceptance" enablers.

Fat acceptance guys are actually shitheads and uggos with low self esteem who deliberately lower their standards in the hope of a pity fuck (and knowing they are unable to score with the chicks they actually find attractive, anyway).

[garbon]

Right. It couldn't possibly be that there are those out there who just don't find overweight people as repugnant as others.

Naw, if anyone actually hates fatties it's the "fat acceptance" enablers.

Fat acceptance guys are actually shitheads and uggos with low self esteem who deliberately lower their standards in the hope of a pity fuck (and knowing they are unable to score with the chicks they actually find attractive, anyway).

I don't think that's true. I think chasers (at least on the gay side) actually find those of bigger builds to be attractive.

[Martinus]

Right. It couldn't possibly be that there are those out there who just don't find overweight people as repugnant as others.

Naw, if anyone actually hates fatties it's the "fat acceptance" enablers.

Fat acceptance guys are actually shitheads and uggos with low self esteem who deliberately lower their standards in the hope of a pity fuck (and knowing they are unable to score with the chicks they actually find attractive, anyway).

I don't think that's true. I think chasers (at least on the gay side) actually find those of bigger builds to be attractive.

I think it may be different for gays (although, again, skinny chasers are rare, so it points towards self-image/lower standards, too).