Chávez dead

[CountDeMoney]

I hope all of you die slowly in a Citgo gas station explosion.

[derspiess]

The Kircheners,

Googly-eyed Nestor's dead, but it's not too late to go after the bitch.

[Admiral Yi]

Googly-eyed Nestor's dead, but it's not too late to go after the bitch.

No point.

[derspiess]

Googly-eyed Nestor's dead, but it's not too late to go after the bitch.

No point.

Disagree.  Would please a great many people.

[Barrister]

I hope all of you die slowly in a Citgo gas station explosion.

Here's what left-leaning Slate had to say about the "reforms" of Chavez:

What has Chávez bequeathed his fellow Venezuelans? The hard facts are unmistakable: The oil-rich South American country is in shambles. It has one of the world's highest rates of inflation, largest fiscal deficits, and fastest growing debts. Despite a boom in oil prices, the country's infrastructure is in disrepair—power outages and rolling blackouts are common—and it is more dependent on crude exports than when Chávez arrived. Venezuela is the only member of OPEC that suffers from shortages of staples such as flour, milk, and sugar. Crime and violence skyrocketed during Chávez's years. On an average weekend, more people are killed in Caracas than in Baghdad and Kabul combined. (In 2009, there were 19,133 murders in Venezuela, more than four times the number of a decade earlier.) When the grisly statistics failed to improve, the Venezuelan government simply stopped publishing the figures.     

[derspiess]

Amuses me a bit that he gave large sums of cash and other goodies to the poor but crime skyrocketed during his reign.  I thought I had been told that poverty was supposed to cause crime and that giving things to poor people will reduce the crime rate

[CountDeMoney]

Here's what left-leaning Slate had to say about the "reforms" of Chavez:

Still wasn't fucking talking to you.

[derspiess]

[Josephus]

Yi, you've lost me.

How so.  You seemed to be calling Josephus a troll.  I don't see how his post makes him a troll.

Thanks.
I didn't see how either. I was being truthful. Chavez is not quite Saddam. [now saying he was is certainly trolling]. Five years ago I would have argued this here, but I'm getting older and have no energy left to deal with people who only see everything in black and white, and refuse to accept that their way of thinking is often not the only accepted viewpoint. I just laugh and move on.

[The Larch]

[Valmy]

Five years ago I would have argued this here, but I'm getting older and have no energy left to deal with people who only see everything in black and white, and refuse to accept that their way of thinking is often not the only accepted viewpoint. I just laugh and move on.

This is ridiculous and untrue.  Plenty of us do not feel he is equal to Saddam.  But congrats on feeling superior.

[derspiess]

Yi, you've lost me.

How so.  You seemed to be calling Josephus a troll.  I don't see how his post makes him a troll.

Thanks.
I didn't see how either. I was being truthful. Chavez is not quite Saddam. [now saying he was is certainly trolling]. Five years ago I would have argued this here, but I'm getting older and have no energy left to deal with people who only see everything in black and white, and refuse to accept that their way of thinking is often not the only accepted viewpoint. I just laugh and move on.

If you'll go back and check, you'll notice that Valmy only responded to the retarded link you posted, and I responded to Valmy with my troll remark.  Valmy then clarified for Yi that we were referring to the link.

I will agree that Chavez was not quite as bad as Saddam.  There-- happy?

[Razgovory]

Just out of curiosity, why did Chavez become the subject of such hate?  It's not like he's unique, even in Latin America.  And there have been worse and may still be worse out there.

[Admiral Yi]

I read most of the Malt's link, and while it is for the most part a fairly predictable pinko apologia of Chavez (liberal use of the change the subject strategy) I didn't find it particularly trollsome.

[Valmy]

Just out of curiosity, why did Chavez become the subject of such hate?  It's not like he's unique, even in Latin America.  And there have been worse and may still be worse out there.

I gave the reasons I suspect.  The fact it occured in an oil country, he screwed with Columbia, and he had a talent of drawing attention to himself saying things that ticked certain people off.