Papabile: Papal predictions thread

[Sheilbh]

Go ask your priest who he's talking to when he says a prayer during mass.

Yep. But as Marty says Catholic doctrine states that it doesn't matter. The faith is being demonstrated in the act of prayer, so the motive is very much secondary. The weirdest example would be that someone who's lost the faith could confess that to a priest who's lost the faith and the prayers would still work and absolution would still be granted.

It's that thing the Pope said, the justified justify themselves, Christ came for the sinners and the doubters and people who fall short.

Again I think it is a bit odd to say that one is a Christian if one doesn't believe in God or something along the lines of Jesus dying for our sins.

Catholicism is, as Marty says, a bit closer to Judaism. It's as much about praxis as belief. And in Catholic terms God would probably be guiding a non-believer to go to mass and confession despite their lack of belief.

If you had a Jew who didn't really believed but followed Mosaic law, would they still be Jewish?

One of the most beautiful and moving things I have witnessed was a Mass in the Cathedral in Assisi - a close second was one I saw in Notre Dame in Paris.  There is just something about all those voices singing and praying in unison and the tempo of the Mass that is very moving.  Nothing that occurs in Prostestant churches comes close.  Although they also sing it is not the same at all.

CofE cathedrals are very good. The tradition of choral music was entirely preserved (Elizabeth I loved it) despite the Reformation. Generally English Catholic and CofE cathedrals (and ultra-traditional churches) have pretty outstanding services in terms of beauty.

Gotta love DC.  Was this a Methodist service?

Apparently the Methodists are projected by the mid-2020s to become statistically negligible in the UK

[crazy canuck]

Oh and I have had real maple syrup and I don't like it.

Your judgment will forevermore be in doubt.

[garbon]

If you had a Jew who didn't really believed but followed Mosaic law, would they still be Jewish?

As a culture sure.

As to your example of God guiding them - still wouldn't call them a Christian as they lack belief in some key tenets of Christianity.

[garbon]

Oh and I have had real maple syrup and I don't like it.

Your judgment will forevermore be in doubt.

I can't say I care much what Canada thinks about me.

[Admiral Yi]

  Gotta love DC.  Was this a Methodist service?

Foundry United Methodist.  On 16th above Logan IIRC.  Nice church.

[crazy canuck]

Oh and I have had real maple syrup and I don't like it.

Your judgment will forevermore be in doubt.

I can't say I care much what Canada thinks about me.

That much is obvious.

[derspiess]

  Gotta love DC.  Was this a Methodist service?

Foundry United Methodist.  On 16th above Logan IIRC.  Nice church.

Well I'm sure you know it's different for normal Methodist churches outside the beltway.  It's always a mention of some old person someone knows, or some woman going through a crisis of some sort.  But it always made me feel a little uncomfortable even at that and I'm glad my current church doesn't do it.

[Admiral Yi]

Well I'm sure you know it's different for normal Methodist churches outside the beltway.  It's always a mention of some old person someone knows, or some woman going through a crisis of some sort.  But it always made me feel a little uncomfortable even at that and I'm glad my current church doesn't do it.

Sure.  Six old people are dying.  Amen.  Let's have some punch.

[Sheilbh]

Well I'm sure you know it's different for normal Methodist churches outside the beltway.  It's always a mention of some old person someone knows, or some woman going through a crisis of some sort.  But it always made me feel a little uncomfortable even at that and I'm glad my current church doesn't do it.

Yep. It sounds awful

Catholic churches have bidding prayers. They're normally more general - there's normally one for the Queen and our governors, often now there's one for the Pope Emeritus too. Aside from that I think the priest writes them. There are normally specific mentions for anniversaries of parish dead, or parishoners in hospital etc.

[The Minsky Moment]

On the subject of prayer, a couple times i attended service at Bill and Hillary's church.  Minister asked if there were any prayer requests (very common in Prot churches for you mackeral snappers).  Bad.  Idea.  It was like an express lobbying session.  "God please grant our leaders the wisdom to end the war in Serbia."  "God please protect our reproductive rights."  Etc., etc.

So no love for the Redskins, who actually needed the prayers?   

[CountDeMoney]

So no love for the Redskins, who actually needed the prayers?   

For that, you'll need a young priest and an old priest.

[fhdz]

So no love for the Redskins, who actually needed the prayers?   

For that, you'll need a young priest and an old priest.

[Martinus]

Pope Francis To Hold Holy Thursday Mass In Casal Del Marmo Youth Jail

Of all places one would expect to find Pope Francis celebrating a major ceremony before Easter, a youth prison probably ranks pretty low on the list.

Yet that's precisely where Pope Francis will celebrate Holy Thursday next week, washing and kissing prisoners' feet at Rome's Casal del Marmo jail for minors.

The move breaks from tradition set by Pope Francis' predecessors, who typically have held the Mass of the Lord's Supper in either St. Peter's Basilica or the Basilica of St. John Lateran, reports Catholic News Service.

The service involves washing and kissing the feet of 12 people and is intended to commemorate Jesus' humility toward his 12 apostles.

In Francis' previous capacity as Argentina's Cardinal Bergoglio, he often held the Holy Thursday ceremony in jails, hospitals or other locations associated with the poor and infirm.

According to Agence France-Presse, Pope Francis has spoken in favor of narrowing the gap between laypeople and the Church.

So he intends to kiss feet of 12 young bad-boy-type guys?



Damn, I should have become a priest. 

Edit: One comment at HuffPo: "Sounds like a kid in a candy store". 

[Eddie Teach]

Edit: One comment at HuffPo: "Sounds like a kid in a candy store". 

Bet you're jelly.

[Martinus]

Edit: One comment at HuffPo: "Sounds like a kid in a candy store". 

Bet you're jelly.

Why am I jelly?