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Started by Savonarola, May 20, 2009, 12:29:38 PM

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Alatriste

Quote from: Neil on May 21, 2009, 07:43:32 PM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 21, 2009, 01:52:20 AM
The Return of the Jedi maimed the dream, the Phantom Menace did truely kill it forever.
You're a fag.

Well, I'll be damned if hating piano playing giant purple puppets, cheap fanboy service with slave princesses that should have worked with their deadly Jedi friends and, like, prepared something akin to a workable plan, evil masterminds that always leave killing their captured enemies for tomorrow, lame ass bounty hunters, burping giant sand monsters, 'Deus ex Machina' intuition of unknown sisters, hordes of little cuddly teddy bears, imperial armies of Keystone cops, cliché butt ugly evil emperors with broad malign grins that can't kill a fly in less than three hours, "fully functioning space stations" definitely NOT improved over the original, heartbreaking family reconciliations in the moment of death and happy ghosts holding hands and singing kumbaya (only male ghosts, by the way, throwing some doubt on Annakin and Obi Wan sexual orientation after all... Alas for poor Amidala, first seduced, then murdered and finally forgotten) makes one a fag!

IIRC the only minutes that didn't stink belonged to the bike chase. Because there was no plot and no dialog, perhaps?

Viking

Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 02:49:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 21, 2009, 07:43:32 PM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 21, 2009, 01:52:20 AM
The Return of the Jedi maimed the dream, the Phantom Menace did truely kill it forever.
You're a fag.

Well, I'll be damned if hating piano playing giant purple puppets, cheap fanboy service with slave princesses that should have worked with their deadly Jedi friends and, like, prepared something akin to a workable plan, evil masterminds that always leave killing their captured enemies for tomorrow, lame ass bounty hunters, burping giant sand monsters, 'Deus ex Machina' intuition of unknown sisters, hordes of little cuddly teddy bears, imperial armies of Keystone cops, cliché butt ugly evil emperors with broad malign grins that can't kill a fly in less than three hours, "fully functioning space stations" definitely NOT improved over the original, heartbreaking family reconciliations in the moment of death and happy ghosts holding hands and singing kumbaya (only male ghosts, by the way, throwing some doubt on Annakin and Obi Wan sexual orientation after all... Alas for poor Amidala, first seduced, then murdered and finally forgotten) makes one a fag!

IIRC the only minutes that didn't stink belonged to the bike chase. Because there was no plot and no dialog, perhaps?

yeah, how the blue muppet could play piano with those huge short fingers amazes me constantly.
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Syt

Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 02:49:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 21, 2009, 07:43:32 PM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 21, 2009, 01:52:20 AM
The Return of the Jedi maimed the dream, the Phantom Menace did truely kill it forever.
You're a fag.

Well, I'll be damned if hating piano playing giant purple puppets, cheap fanboy service with slave princesses that should have worked with their deadly Jedi friends and, like, prepared something akin to a workable plan, evil masterminds that always leave killing their captured enemies for tomorrow, lame ass bounty hunters, burping giant sand monsters, 'Deus ex Machina' intuition of unknown sisters, hordes of little cuddly teddy bears, imperial armies of Keystone cops, cliché butt ugly evil emperors with broad malign grins that can't kill a fly in less than three hours, "fully functioning space stations" definitely NOT improved over the original, heartbreaking family reconciliations in the moment of death and happy ghosts holding hands and singing kumbaya (only male ghosts, by the way, throwing some doubt on Annakin and Obi Wan sexual orientation after all... Alas for poor Amidala, first seduced, then murdered and finally forgotten) makes one a fag!

IIRC the only minutes that didn't stink belonged to the bike chase. Because there was no plot and no dialog, perhaps?

Dude, you're reading way, WAY too much into this, expecting Shakespeare or Sophokles where it isn't. That's like expecting Raiders of the Lost Arc to be a treatment of the Faustian theme before a World War 2 backdrop while examining the effects of totalitarian foreign regimes on colonial countries.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
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Alatriste

Quote from: Syt on May 22, 2009, 02:59:04 AM
Dude, you're reading way, WAY too much into this, expecting Shakespeare or Sophokles where it isn't. That's like expecting Raiders of the Lost Arc to be a treatment of the Faustian theme before a World War 2 backdrop while examining the effects of totalitarian foreign regimes on colonial countries.

Now I would like to watch that movie  :D

But seriously, after 'The Empire Strikes Back' I expected a reasonably good movie that an adult could watch with his brain switched on. I didn't expect 'The Return of the Jedi' to be such a load of rotten, stinking rubbish. With the second trilogy I knew what to expect; they were bad movies with plot holes the size of Texas and so called 'acting' on a par with the latest porn hit, but I was prepared beforehand.

Even so, the midichlorians managed to astound me with their sheer stupidity (hey, the Jedi aren't a Mesianic cult, only a friendly bunch of honest-to-God Nazis) but they were quite funny, if in a twisted way.

Josquius

I didn't see it until the easter after when I got the video.
Meh.
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Caliga

Quote from: Syt on May 22, 2009, 02:59:04 AM
Dude, you're reading way, WAY too much into this, expecting Shakespeare or Sophokles where it isn't. That's like expecting Raiders of the Lost Arc to be a treatment of the Faustian theme before a World War 2 backdrop while examining the effects of totalitarian foreign regimes on colonial countries.

I think he has become the Sith apprentice to Darth Spellus.
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Syt

Quote from: Caliga on May 22, 2009, 06:48:56 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 22, 2009, 02:59:04 AM
Dude, you're reading way, WAY too much into this, expecting Shakespeare or Sophokles where it isn't. That's like expecting Raiders of the Lost Arc to be a treatment of the Faustian theme before a World War 2 backdrop while examining the effects of totalitarian foreign regimes on colonial countries.

I think he has become the Sith apprentice to Darth Spellus.

What about Bill Kristol?
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=228041&title=american-idealogues
(At 1:20)
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Neil

Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 02:49:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on May 21, 2009, 07:43:32 PM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 21, 2009, 01:52:20 AM
The Return of the Jedi maimed the dream, the Phantom Menace did truely kill it forever.
You're a fag.

Well, I'll be damned if hating piano playing giant purple puppets, cheap fanboy service with slave princesses that should have worked with their deadly Jedi friends and, like, prepared something akin to a workable plan, evil masterminds that always leave killing their captured enemies for tomorrow, lame ass bounty hunters, burping giant sand monsters, 'Deus ex Machina' intuition of unknown sisters, hordes of little cuddly teddy bears, imperial armies of Keystone cops, cliché butt ugly evil emperors with broad malign grins that can't kill a fly in less than three hours, "fully functioning space stations" definitely NOT improved over the original, heartbreaking family reconciliations in the moment of death and happy ghosts holding hands and singing kumbaya (only male ghosts, by the way, throwing some doubt on Annakin and Obi Wan sexual orientation after all... Alas for poor Amidala, first seduced, then murdered and finally forgotten) makes one a fag!

IIRC the only minutes that didn't stink belonged to the bike chase. Because there was no plot and no dialog, perhaps?
See?  There's no helping you.  You're totally gay.  You should probably just kill yourself today.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 02:49:15 AM

"fully functioning space stations" definitely NOT improved over the original
It wasn't finished. :mellow:
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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Alatriste

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:18:02 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 02:49:15 AM

"fully functioning space stations" definitely NOT improved over the original
It wasn't finished. :mellow:

"As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!"

Are you saying the Emperor is a liar?  :mad:

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 07:54:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:18:02 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 02:49:15 AM

"fully functioning space stations" definitely NOT improved over the original
It wasn't finished. :mellow:

"As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!"

Are you saying the Emperor is a liar?  :mad:
He's saying the weapons are online, just because it works doesn't mean it's finished. The outer later is less than half done.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Savonarola

Quote from: Tyr on May 22, 2009, 06:00:59 AM
I didn't see it until the easter after when I got the video.
Meh.

Does the Geordie Easter Rabbit deliver bad movies rather than eggs and chocolate?  :unsure:
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Syt

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:57:15 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 07:54:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:18:02 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 02:49:15 AM

"fully functioning space stations" definitely NOT improved over the original
It wasn't finished. :mellow:

"As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed. Now witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!"

Are you saying the Emperor is a liar?  :mad:
He's saying the weapons are online, just because it works doesn't mean it's finished. The outer later is less than half done.

Though probably just support systems were missing. Fighter bays, additional gun towers, shopping malls, fitness clubs, spas, nudie bars and the holodecks.

Though I wonder (if I may step into Clerks for a moment): where did all the contractors working on that thing live? Were they housed in the already finished parts of the station? So that there was only a skeleton military crew? Was there a big worker city on the moon of Endor, like the contractors for the Pyramids?
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Savonarola

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:18:02 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 02:49:15 AM

"fully functioning space stations" definitely NOT improved over the original
It wasn't finished. :mellow:

But it had an outlet to the nuclear reactor core in the Throne Room; that's fundamentally poor engineering.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Syt

Quote from: Savonarola on May 22, 2009, 08:02:27 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 22, 2009, 07:18:02 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on May 22, 2009, 02:49:15 AM

"fully functioning space stations" definitely NOT improved over the original
It wasn't finished. :mellow:

But it had an outlet to the nuclear reactor core in the Throne Room; that's fundamentally poor engineering.

No kidding!
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.