To what extent are cigarette taxes being dodged?

Started by alfred russel, May 20, 2009, 12:08:19 PM

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grumbler

Quote from: alfred russel on May 20, 2009, 02:27:00 PM
But what about mail order cigarettes? A quick search finds places like www.verycheapcigarettes.com, though I have no idea how legit those are.
I have no idea how legit their smokes are, either.  The broken Engrish on this site makes me suspect these are some kind of knock-off smokes with fake labels.
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I still fondly remember just having to pay 10 USD for a pack. It's between 11 and 14 USD nowadays. And you can only smoke in reservations in the mountains after being deloused.

Fortunately for you Americans, you don't have Albanians, Estonians, Lithuanians and assorted other newly-liberated/integrated into the wonderful world of entrepreneurial capitalism all too eager to supply the market of nicotine-craving Norwegians with few qualms about supporting organised crime. Unfortunately for you, you still have the Mob.

ulmont

Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2009, 11:14:34 AM
I have no idea how legit their smokes are, either.  The broken Engrish on this site makes me suspect these are some kind of knock-off smokes with fake labels.

Gray market, if you're lucky.

Strix

Quote from: Vince on May 20, 2009, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: Strix on May 20, 2009, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 20, 2009, 01:52:45 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 20, 2009, 01:44:52 PM
Most of the smokers I know buy them from the Indian tribes. No taxes.

Ironically there is only one tiny Indian reservation in all of Texas.  Smokers here = screwed.

NY repealed the tax exempt status for Indian cigarettes here. I guess they could smuggle them in from other states.

I think it was because Turning Stone Casino was making a killing.  Plus they and the Senecas started selling cartons online.

Probably the politicians got their hands on some figures showing how much in taxes they were losing out on.

On the plus side, it killed the cigarette black market in Rochester. Our Vietnamese population had to go back to selling just marijuana.
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