Justice Department memo reveals legal case for drone strikes on Americans

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Sheilbh

Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2013, 09:31:16 PM
Civil liberties are terrible.
:lol: For me it's like the environment, even when I read well-argued, engaging pieces on the subject I just don't really care.

I've just no problem with CCTV, national ID cards and all the rest  :Embarrass:
Let's bomb Russia!

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2013, 09:37:34 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 05, 2013, 09:34:31 PM
I've just no problem with CCTV, national ID cards and all the rest  :Embarrass:

For shame.

Now, now.  Don't flip flop.

Quote from: Yes, a Minority Homosexual actually wrote thisCivil liberties are terrible.


garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Valmy

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 05, 2013, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: Tamas on February 05, 2013, 02:19:48 AM
The sad part is that if this was done in the Bush era, you would be the thread starter, and Timmy would defend it as no big deal.
I've said many times that I think the one group that can feel legitimately betrayed by Obama are the civil libertarians. They do. They get furious.

Luckily they don't matter anywhere.

I know but we can still sound shrill on the internet.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

CountDeMoney

Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2013, 09:52:50 PM
Sarcasm, have you heard of it? Also homosexuals are a minority. :blurgh:

OK, you're a Double Minority with Cheese.

Sheilbh

Let's bomb Russia!

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

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Valmy

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 05, 2013, 10:03:20 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 05, 2013, 09:56:10 PM
I know but we can still sound shrill on the internet.
And you do :hug: :P

Someday I shall rise up and strike down my oppressors in the name of liberty, equality, and brotherhood....right now way too busy.  Fortunately plenty of time to type in righteous fury.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

Quote from: Ideologue on February 05, 2013, 10:08:52 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2013, 10:06:10 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 05, 2013, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2013, 09:52:50 PM
Sarcasm, have you heard of it? Also homosexuals are a minority. :blurgh:

OK, you're a Double Minority with Cheese.

I wish I had cheese. :(

Smells like socialism.

Not really. If you fools would be suckered enough to give it to me, I'd take it.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Neil

Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2013, 09:52:50 PM
Sarcasm, have you heard of it? Also homosexuals are a minority. :blurgh:
But not really.  Fashion decisions don't make you part of a minority in any meaningful sense.  That's like saying goths are a minority:  Technically true, but useless.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

garbon

Quote from: Neil on February 05, 2013, 10:14:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2013, 09:52:50 PM
Sarcasm, have you heard of it? Also homosexuals are a minority. :blurgh:
But not really.  Fashion decisions don't make you part of a minority in any meaningful sense.  That's like saying goths are a minority:  Technically true, but useless.

Fashion? :huh:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

grumbler

Quote from: grumbler on February 05, 2013, 07:30:26 AM
Legal beagles (by which I mean Minsky), can you explain to me why it matters that this is about "American citizens?"  The US Constitution forbids the government from depriving "any person" of life without due process.  The "American citizen" distinction doesn't make sense from this perspective.  Is there another statute or court decision that applies here stating that American citizens have protections from lethal US government actions that non-citizens don't have?

Ima bump this because I really am curious.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Neil

Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2013, 10:16:00 PM
Quote from: Neil on February 05, 2013, 10:14:19 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 05, 2013, 09:52:50 PM
Sarcasm, have you heard of it? Also homosexuals are a minority. :blurgh:
But not really.  Fashion decisions don't make you part of a minority in any meaningful sense.  That's like saying goths are a minority:  Technically true, but useless.
Fashion? :huh:
Gayness is a fashion thing.  Like being a goth.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.