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"Irresistible" worker fired in Iowa

Started by merithyn, December 23, 2012, 07:28:56 AM

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Quote from: Martinus on December 23, 2012, 01:30:15 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 23, 2012, 01:14:25 PMSo I guess he just had to divorce his wife or shut down his business?  Man no wonder nobody gets hired in Europe.

His marital problems have no bearing on the assessment of the contract between him and his employee - terminating it for reasons not connected with her work performance would be illegal here.

If he really wanted he could have reached a settlement with the employee so she left on her own.

Incidentally, this is being reported all over Europe as one of the "Americans are stupid" stories. I haven't seen a single comment supporting the judgement.

Very few people here work under a contract.

Razgovory

Quote from: Ideologue on December 23, 2012, 10:46:57 AM
You know, if he didn't fuck her for ten years, that sounds like the definition of "resistable."

That's what I was thinking.  Maybe she was really fat 10 years ago.
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Quote from: Ideologue on December 23, 2012, 01:37:20 PM
Iowa's an at-will employment state.  He could have fired her for wearing blue. 

See that's what I don't get. If he can fire her for any random thing unrelated to her performance, why isn't he allowed to fire her for being a woman as well? It doesn't make any sense.

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Ed Anger

Just make something up. I am distressed at my fellow business owners and their lack of imagination in terminating employees.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Iormlund on December 23, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
See that's what I don't get. If he can fire her for any random thing unrelated to her performance, why isn't he allowed to fire her for being a woman as well? It doesn't make any sense.

Johnson's civil rights legislation and, later, the Americans with Disabilities Act.  There are certain "protected classes" that you're not allowed to discriminate against.  Women are a protected class.  Hotties is not a protected class.

Admiral Yi

Come to think of it, fugliness is probably a protected class.  Airlines used to hire only hotties as stewardesses until that fat cow Bella Abzug said they had to hire fugs too.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 23, 2012, 04:17:26 PM
Come to think of it, fugliness is probably a protected class.  Airlines used to hire only hotties as stewardesses until that fat cow Bella Abzug said they had to hire fugs too.

And guys.  Was on a Southwest flight with a dude attendant that had so much fabulous glitter, I thought we were flying straight to Pride Day.

Razgovory

Quote from: Ed Anger on December 23, 2012, 04:05:53 PM
Just make something up. I am distressed at my fellow business owners and their lack of imagination in terminating employees.

I've always given people good reasons.  The paint thing was my favorite.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sheilbh

I'm broadly with Marti and Iorm on this one, I don't like 'protected classes' or 'at will' laws. In the UK we don't have 'protected classes' but 'protected characteristics' which include age, gender, beliefs, race and so on.
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Quote from: Sheilbh on December 23, 2012, 05:12:28 PM
I'm broadly with Marti and Iorm on this one, I don't like 'protected classes' or 'at will' laws. In the UK we don't have 'protected classes' but 'protected characteristics' which include age, gender, beliefs, race and so on.

Not real clear what the difference between that and a "protected class" is.
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Looking around the world, the only alternative to at will laws seems to be once you hire a guy, he's yours for life.

dps

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 23, 2012, 05:15:47 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 23, 2012, 05:12:28 PM
I'm broadly with Marti and Iorm on this one, I don't like 'protected classes' or 'at will' laws. In the UK we don't have 'protected classes' but 'protected characteristics' which include age, gender, beliefs, race and so on.

Not real clear what the difference between that and a "protected class" is.

Yeah, that sounds like it might be mostly a difference in terminology.

Sheilbh

Quote from: dps on December 23, 2012, 05:22:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 23, 2012, 05:15:47 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on December 23, 2012, 05:12:28 PM
I'm broadly with Marti and Iorm on this one, I don't like 'protected classes' or 'at will' laws. In the UK we don't have 'protected classes' but 'protected characteristics' which include age, gender, beliefs, race and so on.

Not real clear what the difference between that and a "protected class" is.

Yeah, that sounds like it might be mostly a difference in terminology.
Yi said women were a protected class. In the UK gender is a protected characteristic. It's illegal to discriminate against people on the basis of their gender so it covers women, men and people undergoing gender reassignment.

QuoteLooking around the world, the only alternative to at will laws seems to be once you hire a guy, he's yours for life.
Not really :mellow:
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