Elementary school shooting gun control pissing contest

[derspiess]

These are from my sisters today.

The second I see an image on Facebook with an American flag backdrop, I immediately tune it out of my head and ignore it.  Sad really, but I know it's going to be some insane nonsense.

Yeah. 

[DGuller]

It's a shame that our primary national symbol has become a warning of impending stupidity. 

[derspiess]

Off-topic but in the same vein as silly Facebook stuff, my best friend's sister is a teacher and always posts these "OMG Teachers are America's backbone and are so dedicated and work so much harder than anyone else" pics & whatnot.  Yet whenever there is a snow day, such as today in her county, she celebrates more than most kids probably do.

Great gal & all, but she has some quirks.  Like using the term "Yankee" a lot.  She grew up in West Virginia and currently lives in Richmond.  Not like she's from the deep south or anything.

[crazy canuck]

He explained a few days ago, for some reason one or both are pro-gay rights, which doesn't fit in with the rest of the teabaggery.

Gay does not necessarily equal rational or tolerant.  You have undoubtly stopped reading Marti's threads and so have not been given that constant reminder.

[Syt]

Yeah, how did that last one get there?

The sister who posted it has a gay son in the Navy.

The other sister has a gay brother in law. Who was in the Navy (pilot in GW1). No, really.

[Syt]

At least my nephew who recently moved to the U.S. posts stuff like this instead:

[DGuller]

Yeah, how did that last one get there?

The sister who posted it has a gay son in the Navy.

The other sister has a gay brother in law. Who was in the Navy (pilot in GW1). No, really.

Jesus, they must be really bored in that branch.

[derspiess]

Yeah, how did that last one get there?

The sister who posted it has a gay son in the Navy.

The other sister has a gay brother in law. Who was in the Navy (pilot in GW1). No, really.

Jesus, they must be really bored in that branch.

IN THE NAVY!

[garbon]

Yeah, how did that last one get there?

The sister who posted it has a gay son in the Navy.

The other sister has a gay brother in law. Who was in the Navy (pilot in GW1). No, really.

Jesus, they must be really bored in that branch.

IN THE NAVY!

[derspiess]

Just ran across this & wanted to see what you guys, particularly Seedy, think.  I know it's a conservative news site, but they are the primary source so it's not like I can dig up an msnbc.com article to placate you guys.  So anyway assuming Biden said this, what do you guys think-- seems to me like it contradicts his and the president's stated commitment to do whatever possible to stop guns from getting into the hands of dangerous people.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/18/biden-to-nra-we-dont-have-the-time-to-prosecute-people-who-lie-on-background-checks

During the National Rifle Association's meeting with Vice President Joe Biden and the White House gun violence task force, the vice president said the Obama administration does not have the time to fully enforce existing gun laws.

Jim Baker, the NRA representative present at the meeting, recalled the vice president's words during an interview with The Daily Caller: "And to your point, Mr. Baker, regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don't have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately."

Submitting false information on an ATF Form 4473 — required for the necessary background check to obtain a firearm — is a felony punishable by up to ten years in prison, depending on prior convictions and a judge's discretion, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

[Jacob]

Isn't that simply a reflection of the funding available for enforcement?

[CountDeMoney]

Considering how Congress has consistently hamstrung the BATF and the Federal government's ability to enforce Federal gun laws over the last 20 years by slicing its budget, legislatively preventing it from doing its job, and tabling the ability to name its director for 6 years, I can see why he'd say that.

[derspiess]

Considering how Congress has consistently hamstrung the BATF and the Federal government's ability to enforce Federal gun laws over the last 20 years by slicing its budget, legislatively preventing it from doing its job, and tabling the ability to name its director for 6 years, I can see why he'd say that.

Figured you'd find a way to defend it.  If funding is what's really preventing them from enforcing this law, why haven't I seen anything from Obama to specifically address it?  I'd have to think that would meet with little opposition.  Also, how would the BATF be able to enforce new gun laws if it can't deal with something relatively easy like this?

[derspiess]

  Whoops!

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news%2Flocal%2Fnew_york&id=8958116

NEW YORK (WABC) -- A troubling oversight has been found within New York State's sweeping new gun laws.

The ban on having high-capacity magazines, as it's written, would also include law enforcement officers.

Magazines with more than seven rounds will be illegal under the new law when that part takes effect in March.

[Neil]

I see nothing wrong with that.