Elementary school shooting gun control pissing contest

[Valmy]

If gun buybacks don't do the trick, maybe video game buybacks will!

http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/01/11/state-melrose-mayor-target-violent-video-games/rJDPeKQTBfKYIt92Gic24L/story.html

Well that should make the NRA happy, they clearly do not give two shits about the First Amendment.

[Razgovory]

From what I gleaned, he and his mother seemed fairly typical of NRA type gun owners.  Owned several semi-automatic rifles, stockpiled ammunition and went to the range to shoot often, and were vaguely paranoid.

  Where did you get this typical NRA member profile from Raz?

The stuff they put out.

[Eddie Teach]

It's not paranoia when you really are out to take their guns away.

[Razgovory]

It's not paranoia when you really are out to take their guns away.

I know crazy.

[Neil]

It's not paranoia when you really are out to take their guns away.

Indeed.  What it is is malice.

[derspiess]

I don't get you paranoid guntypes.  Even though even the Dems wildest crazy scheme, which will be watered down if it passes anyway, does not include serious gun control.  Yet the insane fury at nothing continues, Supreme Court decision or no.  This is why I think you people are mentally ill.

Wow.  Mentally ill?  Really?  Do you apply that label to those who passionately defend other freedoms?

Anyway, the fact of the matter is that many Dems would very much like to outlaw all firearms.  No, they're not likely to get their way at the moment, but the possibility of any anti-gun legislation taking place is legitimate reason for gun rights advocates to be concerned.

Classic liberal

[derspiess]

If gun buybacks don't do the trick, maybe video game buybacks will!

http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/01/11/state-melrose-mayor-target-violent-video-games/rJDPeKQTBfKYIt92Gic24L/story.html

Well that should make the NRA happy, they clearly do not give two shits about the First Amendment.

Hyperbole much?

[Razgovory]

I don't get you paranoid guntypes.  Even though even the Dems wildest crazy scheme, which will be watered down if it passes anyway, does not include serious gun control.  Yet the insane fury at nothing continues, Supreme Court decision or no.  This is why I think you people are mentally ill.

Wow.  Mentally ill?  Really?  Do you apply that label to those who passionately defend other freedoms?

Anyway, the fact of the matter is that many Dems would very much like to outlaw all firearms.  No, they're not likely to get their way at the moment, but the possibility of any anti-gun legislation taking place is legitimate reason for gun rights advocates to be concerned.

Classic liberal

[Neil]

It's not that the NRA doesn't care at all about the First Amendment.  It's just that their overriding concern is the Second, and they would sacrifice anything to preserve their interpretation of it.  Unfortunately, they're entirely wrong in this because the Second Amendment is backwards paleo-law, but it's still their job to advocate, even if that advocation would destroy the world entire.

[DGuller]

I don't think conservatives are mentally ill.  They are, however, highly fearful of many things, and that drives many of their positions.  Maybe it's good to have some fearful people around in society, to avoid becoming complacent, but currently they're definitely a drag on the advancement of American society.

[Razgovory]

I don't think conservatives are mentally ill.  They are, however, highly fearful of many things, and that drives many of their positions.  Maybe it's good to have some fearful people around in society, to avoid becoming complacent, but currently they're definitely a drag on the advancement of American society.

That is a mental illness.  It's called litigious paranoia.

[DGuller]

I don't think conservatives are mentally ill.  They are, however, highly fearful of many things, and that drives many of their positions.  Maybe it's good to have some fearful people around in society, to avoid becoming complacent, but currently they're definitely a drag on the advancement of American society.

That is a mental illness.  It's called litigious paranoia.

I think diagnosing half of US population as mentally ill isn't going to be helpful.  It's just a personal preference that varies by individual, much like risk aversion.  You need some people at every reasonable point of the scale, but the key is moderation and lock of lopsidedness.

[Neil]

Yeah.  If enough people have it, it's not mental illness anymore.  Look at faggotry, for example.

[Razgovory]

I don't think conservatives are mentally ill.  They are, however, highly fearful of many things, and that drives many of their positions.  Maybe it's good to have some fearful people around in society, to avoid becoming complacent, but currently they're definitely a drag on the advancement of American society.

That is a mental illness.  It's called litigious paranoia.

I think diagnosing half of US population as mentally ill isn't going to be helpful.  It's just a personal preference that varies by individual, much like risk aversion.  You need some people at every reasonable point of the scale, but the key is moderation and lock of lopsidedness.

It's not half the population.  There's like 4 million NRA members.  More people take Prozac then that.  If you are thinking of the GOP, they aren't half the population, Like maybe a third.  And I remind you about 48% of them believe that last election was stolen by a defunct organization that helped people find low cost housing.  That's pretty delusional.  Shit, the WHO estimated that 500 million people in the world suffer from some sort of mental illness.

[derspiess]

Oh, Raz and his selective reading of isolated polls. Don't ever change