Elementary school shooting gun control pissing contest

Started by Grey Fox, December 14, 2012, 01:25:41 PM

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11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

garbon

Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2013, 04:19:41 PM
The current spate of talk about the NRA reminds me more than a little about the old Occupy Wall Street and Obama talk about the rich.  In both cases it seems to me that people have lost sight of the ultimate objective, i.e. legislation.  Discrediting and vilifying the NRA and rich people should be a means to an end, but people are treating it as a end in and of itself.

What do you think is easier to accomplish?

That said - pretty silly here as NRA does enough on its own to discredit and paint itself as a villain.

and not enough people are paying attention. I hope Obama expends political capital on the gun fight.

I've no idea what you mean by the first part.
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11B4V

Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 08:56:00 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2013, 04:19:41 PM
The current spate of talk about the NRA reminds me more than a little about the old Occupy Wall Street and Obama talk about the rich.  In both cases it seems to me that people have lost sight of the ultimate objective, i.e. legislation.  Discrediting and vilifying the NRA and rich people should be a means to an end, but people are treating it as a end in and of itself.

What do you think is easier to accomplish?

That said - pretty silly here as NRA does enough on its own to discredit and paint itself as a villain.

and not enough people are paying attention. I hope Obama expends political capital on the gun fight.

I've no idea what you mean by the first part.

American public, as a whole, has a seriuos case of ADHD.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

garbon

Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
Unacceptable. Bloomberg must be arrested immediately.

Bloomberg is the poster boy for left wing nut jobs. IMO he is the very picture of the govmint I dont want.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/nyregion/new-york-city-to-restrict-powerful-prescription-drugs-in-public-hospitals-emergency-rooms.html?_r=0
What's nutty about that? We live in a nation where Vicodin is the most widely prescribed drug.  At the urging of the DEA, the FDA is up to consider again whether or not to put more constraints on prescribing it.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 08:56:00 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2013, 04:19:41 PM
The current spate of talk about the NRA reminds me more than a little about the old Occupy Wall Street and Obama talk about the rich.  In both cases it seems to me that people have lost sight of the ultimate objective, i.e. legislation.  Discrediting and vilifying the NRA and rich people should be a means to an end, but people are treating it as a end in and of itself.

What do you think is easier to accomplish?

That said - pretty silly here as NRA does enough on its own to discredit and paint itself as a villain.

and not enough people are paying attention. I hope Obama expends political capital on the gun fight.

I've no idea what you mean by the first part.

American public, as a whole, has a seriuos case of ADHD.

With regards to the NRA?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
Unacceptable. Bloomberg must be arrested immediately.

Bloomberg is the poster boy for left wing nut jobs. IMO he is the very picture of the govmint I dont want.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/nyregion/new-york-city-to-restrict-powerful-prescription-drugs-in-public-hospitals-emergency-rooms.html?_r=0
What's nutty about that? We live in a nation where Vicodin is the most widely prescribed drug.  At the urging of the DEA, the FDA is up to consider again whether or not to put more constraints on prescribing it.

So public hospitals are ok?
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 08:57:46 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 08:56:00 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 12, 2013, 04:19:41 PM
The current spate of talk about the NRA reminds me more than a little about the old Occupy Wall Street and Obama talk about the rich.  In both cases it seems to me that people have lost sight of the ultimate objective, i.e. legislation.  Discrediting and vilifying the NRA and rich people should be a means to an end, but people are treating it as a end in and of itself.

What do you think is easier to accomplish?

That said - pretty silly here as NRA does enough on its own to discredit and paint itself as a villain.

and not enough people are paying attention. I hope Obama expends political capital on the gun fight.

I've no idea what you mean by the first part.

American public, as a whole, has a seriuos case of ADHD.

With regards to the NRA?

With regard to anything.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

garbon

Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
Unacceptable. Bloomberg must be arrested immediately.

Bloomberg is the poster boy for left wing nut jobs. IMO he is the very picture of the govmint I dont want.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/nyregion/new-york-city-to-restrict-powerful-prescription-drugs-in-public-hospitals-emergency-rooms.html?_r=0
What's nutty about that? We live in a nation where Vicodin is the most widely prescribed drug.  At the urging of the DEA, the FDA is up to consider again whether or not to put more constraints on prescribing it.

So public hospitals are ok?

Are you drunk? :unsure:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

11B4V

Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 09:00:47 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 08:55:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 12, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
Unacceptable. Bloomberg must be arrested immediately.

Bloomberg is the poster boy for left wing nut jobs. IMO he is the very picture of the govmint I dont want.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/nyregion/new-york-city-to-restrict-powerful-prescription-drugs-in-public-hospitals-emergency-rooms.html?_r=0
What's nutty about that? We live in a nation where Vicodin is the most widely prescribed drug.  At the urging of the DEA, the FDA is up to consider again whether or not to put more constraints on prescribing it.

So public hospitals are ok?

Are you drunk? :unsure:

So it's OK that only public hospitals are being targeted by bloomberg?

and no to your question.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

garbon

I don't really see it as big problem except for the bit that the article cites as ERs as the main medical providers for plenty of people. Of course, the article also mentions that he's hardly adopting a new stance - as it has been pushed elsewhere.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

11B4V

Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 09:10:51 PM
I don't really see it as big problem except for the bit that the article cites as ERs as the main medical providers for plenty of people. Of course, the article also mentions that he's hardly adopting a new stance - as it has been pushed elsewhere.

Glad you feel Dr. Bloomberg is on your side. Perhaps you are on his baby formula crusade too.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

grumbler

Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 09:17:28 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 09:10:51 PM
I don't really see it as big problem except for the bit that the article cites as ERs as the main medical providers for plenty of people. Of course, the article also mentions that he's hardly adopting a new stance - as it has been pushed elsewhere.

Glad you feel Dr. Bloomberg is on your side. Perhaps you are on his baby formula crusade too.
Wow, that was a rather blatant shift of the goal posts!  :lol:

Why don't you stay focused on the hospital drugs issue, since it was your poster-child for the kind of government you don't want?
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

11B4V

Quote from: grumbler on January 12, 2013, 09:27:27 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 12, 2013, 09:17:28 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 12, 2013, 09:10:51 PM
I don't really see it as big problem except for the bit that the article cites as ERs as the main medical providers for plenty of people. Of course, the article also mentions that he's hardly adopting a new stance - as it has been pushed elsewhere.

Glad you feel Dr. Bloomberg is on your side. Perhaps you are on his baby formula crusade too.
Wow, that was a rather blatant shift of the goal posts!  :lol:

Why don't you stay focused on the hospital drugs issue, since it was your poster-child for the kind of government you don't want?

You tell a new post pardum crazed mother to breast feed when she wants to use formula. I think CdM would give you a good eulogy.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".