Elementary school shooting reported in Newtown, Conn.

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merithyn

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I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

mongers

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on December 19, 2012, 10:56:57 AM
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Now it is being reported Nancy Lanza was planning to have Adam either committed to a psychiatric facility or at the least given legal guardianship over him so she could move him to Washington State where there was a special school for his brand of nutbag.

QuoteReports: Lanza may have been angry about mother's plans
John Bacon, USA TODAY10:30a.m. EST December 19, 2012CommentsShare
Local resident says Adam Lanza, who killed 26 people at a Newtown school, may have believed his mother loved the school more than him.


(Photo: Jason DeCrow, AP)
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Pastor's son talks of possible clash between Lanza and his mother
Lanza killed 20 students and 6 adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School
Family acquaintance says mother was planning to commit Lanza to a psychiatric facility
An acquaintance of the family of Connecticut mass murderer Adam Lanza says he may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, foxnews.com reports.

And The Washington Post quotes a Lanza family friend as saying Lanza's mother was considering moving to Washington state so Adam could attend a special school there.

"He was her whole life," Mark Tambascio, a restaurant proprietor and close family friend, told the Post.

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Foxnews.com reports that Joshua Flashman, a Marine who grew up near the Newtown school, said he believes Adam Lanza targeted Sandy Hook Elementary after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school "more than she loved him."

Flashman, 25, is the son of a pastor at a church where many of the families of the victims worship.

"From what I've been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed," Flashman told the website. "Adam was apparently very upset about this. He thought she just wanted to send him away. From what I understand, he was really, really angry. I think this could have been it, what set him off."

Nancy Lanza, 52, would have needed court approval to have an adult committed to a psychiatric facility.

Foxnews says authorities trying to determine a motive for Friday's gruesome explosion of violence that left 28 people dead, including Lanza and his mother, are looking at the possibility that Lanza was angry about his mother's plans for his treatment.

Lanza, 20, attended Sandy Hook in his youth, and Flashman told foxnews.com that his mother had volunteered there for several years. Two law enforcement sources told the website they believed Nancy Lanza had been volunteering with kindergartners at the school. Most of Lanza's victims were first-graders sources told foxnews that they believe Nancy Lanza may have worked with last year.

Multiple sources have said that Adam Lanza was very bright but suffered from Asperger's syndrome, a form of autism, and unspecified mental and emotional problems.

Why in the name of fuck do you not have you guns under super-hardcore lockdown if you've got a son you are convinced is crazy enough to be committed living in your house? Why do you tell him / let him know you're trying to have him committed?

Well a lot of people aren't capable of advanced thinking ie putting two and two together, as you just did.  These are the types of people who shouldn't have guns, as you said in another post.
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MadImmortalMan

Quote from: mongers on December 19, 2012, 01:12:25 PM
Well a lot of people aren't capable of advanced thinking ie putting two and two together, as you just did.  These are the types of people who shouldn't have guns, as you said in another post.


And this person was responsible for teaching children on a daily basis.
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merithyn

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 19, 2012, 01:15:18 PM


And this person was responsible for teaching children on a daily basis.

Only her own. She home-schooled her son, but otherwise was not a teacher. She did, however, volunteer at Sandy Hook, it's been reported.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

mongers

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 19, 2012, 01:15:18 PM
Quote from: mongers on December 19, 2012, 01:12:25 PM
Well a lot of people aren't capable of advanced thinking ie putting two and two together, as you just did.  These are the types of people who shouldn't have guns, as you said in another post.


And this person was responsible for teaching children on a daily basis.

I'm sometimes amazed at how much in the now some people live; being swayed this way or that by advertising, prevailing modes and panics/mass hysterias.
Looking at a problem, thinking of different solutions, what each of those might entail and what are the consequences seems to be alien to some people. 
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11B4V

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on December 19, 2012, 10:56:57 AM
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Now it is being reported Nancy Lanza was planning to have Adam either committed to a psychiatric facility or at the least given legal guardianship over him so she could move him to Washington State where there was a special school for his brand of nutbag.



Oh fucking great.
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Moment of silence for the one week after the shooting.  :(

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Kleves

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The NRA's doubling down (unsurprisingly):
QuoteNational Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre defiantly blamed violent video games and movies, the media, gun-free zones in schools and other factors during the organization's first public statement following the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn. last week.

LaPierre, who was interrupted by Code Pink protesters twice during a statement (during which he refused to answer questions), said that the students in Newtown might have been better protected had officials at Sandy Hook Elementary been armed. He said that putting a police officer in every single school in America might make schools safer.

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," he said, asking Congress to immediately appropriate the money to put a police officer in every single school in the country.

The NRA executive's statement was nothing short of defiant in the face of mounting discussion of the need for tighter restrictions on guns — including renewing a ban on assault weapons — in the wake of last week's shooting.

Protesters twice interrupted LaPierre, who will appear this Sunday exclusively on NBC's "Meet the Press," holding signs reading "NRA KILLING OUR KIDS," and screaming that the gun rights group has "blood on its hands."
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All protesters are scum.  Even when they're right, they're awful.

At any rate, people should protest against Subway.  When the NFL had a moment of silence for the school shooting before their games, the network cut away to a solid block of RG3 Subway commercials.  The general effect was 'this school shooting was brought to you by Subway'.  Let's attack Subway.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Kleves on December 21, 2012, 11:35:50 AM
The NRA's doubling down (unsurprisingly):

LoL, guns dont kill people, people who play video games kill people.

derspiess

While I'm relieved the NRA didn't pull the rug out from under its members, a la Joe Manchin with his constituents, it was a poor decision to target video games & movies.  This thing could turn into a circular firing squad between movies/games, gun rights advocates, and the mental health industry.
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Faeelin

I think the bigger issue is their proposal to spend billions of dollars to hire cops to put in every school.