Elementary school shooting reported in Newtown, Conn.

Started by garbon, December 14, 2012, 11:49:57 AM

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Quote from: Faeelin on December 21, 2012, 12:47:34 PM
I think the bigger issue is their proposal to spend billions of dollars to hire cops to put in every school.

From Twitter, no idea on who this guy is or the truth behind it.

Quote@GuyEndoreKaiser: Fort Hood, Virginia Tech, and Columbine all had two things in common.  One of them was armed guards.

Caliga

A lot of schools already have them.  The high school I went to has a full-time cop now, and it's not even close to being a 'violent' school.
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Quote from: derspiess on December 21, 2012, 12:45:20 PM
While I'm relieved the NRA didn't pull the rug out from under its members, a la Joe Manchin with his constituents, it was a poor decision to target video games & movies.  This thing could turn into a circular firing squad between movies/games, gun rights advocates, and the mental health industry.

Relieved?  You honestly thought the NRA was going to be all 'yeah forget this 2nd Amendment stuff lets have some gun control we have blood on our hands'?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on December 21, 2012, 01:10:06 PM
Relieved?  You honestly thought the NRA was going to be all 'yeah forget this 2nd Amendment stuff lets have some gun control we have blood on our hands'?

I was a little worried about it.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

DGuller

Quote from: Valmy on December 21, 2012, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 21, 2012, 12:45:20 PM
While I'm relieved the NRA didn't pull the rug out from under its members, a la Joe Manchin with his constituents, it was a poor decision to target video games & movies.  This thing could turn into a circular firing squad between movies/games, gun rights advocates, and the mental health industry.

Relieved?  You honestly thought the NRA was going to be all 'yeah forget this 2nd Amendment stuff lets have some gun control we have blood on our hands'?
Do you honestly expect conservatives to not be afraid of something, anything, no matter how unfounded the fear is?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on December 21, 2012, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 21, 2012, 01:10:06 PM
Relieved?  You honestly thought the NRA was going to be all 'yeah forget this 2nd Amendment stuff lets have some gun control we have blood on our hands'?

I was a little worried about it.

:lol:  With Wayne LaPierre in charge? That's a big ol' hunka burnin' LULZ right there.

derspiess

Meanwhile, Mayor Bloomberg wins the price for whopper of the day:

Quote"I don't think there's anybody that's defended the Second Amendment as much as I have...
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 21, 2012, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 21, 2012, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 21, 2012, 01:10:06 PM
Relieved?  You honestly thought the NRA was going to be all 'yeah forget this 2nd Amendment stuff lets have some gun control we have blood on our hands'?

I was a little worried about it.

:lol:  With Wayne LaPierre in charge? That's a big ol' hunka burnin' LULZ right there.

He's got cool glasses.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

OttoVonBismarck

Quote from: derspiess on December 21, 2012, 12:45:20 PM
While I'm relieved the NRA didn't pull the rug out from under its members, a la Joe Manchin with his constituents, it was a poor decision to target video games & movies.  This thing could turn into a circular firing squad between movies/games, gun rights advocates, and the mental health industry.

I follow West Virginia politics a little bit (while my cabin is in VA the property actually crosses the line), and the one defining truth about that State is they do not seem to hold their elected officials very accountable. Manchin in particular, from what I can tell he is just a political grandstanding glad-hander who barely did anything as Governor but was never really taken to task for it. I guess he knows no one in his State will dare vote him out of office no matter what he does.

Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on December 21, 2012, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 21, 2012, 01:10:06 PM
Relieved?  You honestly thought the NRA was going to be all 'yeah forget this 2nd Amendment stuff lets have some gun control we have blood on our hands'?

I was a little worried about it.

Yeah don't worry.  It seems the second amendment types want the government to attack the first amendment instead of themselves.  So much for the NRA being about liberty.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Faeelin

Quote from: Valmy on December 21, 2012, 01:22:53 PM
Yeah don't worry.  It seems the second amendment types want the government to attack the first amendment instead of themselves.  So much for the NRA being about liberty.

It's a gun lobbying group.  Why would it care about anything else?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on December 21, 2012, 01:22:53 PM
Yeah don't worry.  It seems the second amendment types want the government to attack the first amendment instead of themselves.  So much for the NRA being about liberty.

You know, it would be really cool if those individuals that want such a strict Founding Fathers interpretation of the 2nd Amendment get precisely that: and the courts decide that the 2nd Amendment should apply to those individual rights to possess black powder weaponry.

After all, if that's what the Framers had in mind, then that's what the Amendment should be restricted to:  musket technology.   That should slow down the next school shooting's rate of fire.  Brown Bess instead of Bushmaster.

Valmy

Quote from: Faeelin on December 21, 2012, 01:26:43 PM
It's a gun lobbying group.  Why would it care about anything else?

Because the primary arrow in their quiver is the Second Amendment.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

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Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on December 21, 2012, 01:22:29 PM
I follow West Virginia politics a little bit (while my cabin is in VA the property actually crosses the line), and the one defining truth about that State is they do not seem to hold their elected officials very accountable. Manchin in particular, from what I can tell he is just a political grandstanding glad-hander who barely did anything as Governor but was never really taken to task for it. I guess he knows no one in his State will dare vote him out of office no matter what he does.

Despite a few bumps in the road, I've been a big supporter of his.  He's a Conservative Democrat and I agree with him on way more than I disagree.  One of my best friends was his communications director, so I got to talk to him a few times.  Always came across as a very genuine, likable guy.

He reminds me of Bill Clinton in his days as governor, without all the skirt chasing of course.  He idolizes Clinton and relishes whatever attention he gets from the Clinton wing of the Dem party.  If conditions are right I could see him making a primary run in 2016.

You're dead-on about WV constituents not holding their elected officials accountable for representing their own views.  Incumbency, labor union support, and pork apparently go a long, long way with WV voters.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall