Walmart Workers Threaten to Strike on Black Friday

[viper37]

do you get compensation as in double pay, or another day off the week after?

No. Why would I? I get Thanksgiving off, which is more than a number of my co-workers get off.

I misunderstood.  I thought you meant you had no day off at all.  It's that Black Friday thing confusing me.  Typically American to request time off for a *shopping* holiday 

[merithyn]

Most American companies give both Thursday and Friday off. Because I work for an insurance company owned by a hospital, I don't. There isn't a holiday for people getting sick. And the hospital does pay time and a half for those working the actual holiday, but only for full time employees.

[dps]

Wal Mart floor employees only get paid holiday day for working Thanksgiving Day if they work both the Wednesday before it and the Friday afterwards.

So an employee can work the actual stat holiday and not get paid extra for working the stat?  How does that make any sense?

Been like that for quite a lot of places for ages:  you have to work both days bookending a holiday to get holiday pay, or it's just another Thursday for you.  I've had jobs like that before.

YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU DONT HAVE TO WORK HERE COMMIE PINKO GET A REAL JOB ROBBLE ROBBLE UNIONS DESTRY AMMURICA W#@$*( @)*& )@*(%$

Except that the policy isn't that you have to work Wednesday and Friday to get the holiday pay--it's that you have to work your last scheduled shift before the holiday and your next scheduled shift after the holiday to get holiday pay.  So if you're scheduled to work Tuesday, be off Wednesday, work Thursday and work Friday, the fact that you don't work Wednesday doesn't keep you from getting your holiday pay.  Miss work Tuesday, then you won't get holiday pay.

But there's no law that a company has to offer holiday pay at all (usual disclaimer about how there might be exceptions in some US jurisdictions). 

[merithyn]

That's the debate. There are those who believe that it should be a law.

[Grey Fox]

I like how after Otto's rant most posts are by Canadians

[merithyn]

I like how after Otto's rant most posts are by Canadians

Meh. Most of them are just Viper catching up.

[viper37]

I like how after Otto's rant most posts are by Canadians

Meh. Most of them are just Viper catching up.

In my defense, I was still at the office

[Caliga]

Most American companies give both Thursday and Friday off. Because I work for an insurance company owned by a hospital, I don't. There isn't a holiday for people getting sick. And the hospital does pay time and a half for those working the actual holiday, but only for full time employees.

Before I moved to Kentucky I worked for a Jewish medical center.  I didn't get a single 'free' holiday, not even Christmas.

[Caliga]

But there's no law that a company has to offer holiday pay at all (usual disclaimer about how there might be exceptions in some US jurisdictions).

I wouldn't be surprised if holiday pay is required by California law.  California has all sorts of stupid laws about stuff like that, which complicates doing business in California quite a bit.  For example, my company acquired another firm in Orange County a few years back, and they have some dumb law about how you can't  mandate employees use or lose accrued vacation, which caused all sorts of problems.  Moral of the story: if you do an acquisition in California, get rid of as many of the California-based workers as possible.

[dps]

That's the debate. There are those who believe that it should be a law.

So I see.  I had skipped ahead to correct the factually incorrect information about having to work Wed and Fri to get holiday pay.

[CountDeMoney]

Wal Mart floor employees only get paid holiday day for working Thanksgiving Day if they work both the Wednesday before it and the Friday afterwards.

So an employee can work the actual stat holiday and not get paid extra for working the stat?  How does that make any sense?

Been like that for quite a lot of places for ages:  you have to work both days bookending a holiday to get holiday pay, or it's just another Thursday for you.  I've had jobs like that before.

YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU DONT HAVE TO WORK HERE COMMIE PINKO GET A REAL JOB ROBBLE ROBBLE UNIONS DESTRY AMMURICA W#@$*( @)*& )@*(%$

Except that the policy isn't that you have to work Wednesday and Friday to get the holiday pay--it's that you have to work your last scheduled shift before the holiday and your next scheduled shift after the holiday to get holiday pay.  So if you're scheduled to work Tuesday, be off Wednesday, work Thursday and work Friday, the fact that you don't work Wednesday doesn't keep you from getting your holiday pay.  Miss work Tuesday, then you won't get holiday pay.

In that case, then it's OK to fuck them over, right?

[CountDeMoney]

That's the debate. There are those who believe that it should be a law.

So I see.  I had skipped ahead to correct the factually incorrect information about having to work Wed and Fri to get holiday pay.

Shift work is shift work is shift work.  Playing games about working your scheduled Tuesday and but off Wednesday before Thanksgiving doesn't mean it's any less sucky to have to jump through hoops to earn as meager a bone as holiday pay.

[derspiess]

Give it up, Seedy.  You lost this one.

[Malthus]

Give it up, Seedy.  You lost this one.

Quick, distract him with a dead animal in Australia! 

[CountDeMoney]

Give it up, Seedy.  You lost this one.

Wrong.  I've worked in plenty of shift work environments that played it all sorts of ways, and they still suck.

So go fuck yourself with a fetus without time and a half.