Hamas military chief Ahmed Jabari killed by Israeli strike

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Razgovory

Do these invasions actually work?  It seems like we've gone through this routine a few times before.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

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Viking

Quote from: Josephus on November 15, 2012, 03:53:29 PM
Does anything really work in the Middle East?

Well, things in Israel work for the most part, it's the interactions with Israel's neighbors that don't work.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Barrister

Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 03:16:10 PM
Do these invasions actually work?  It seems like we've gone through this routine a few times before.

Define "work".

It'll disrupt Hamas in the short term.  They will seize some supplies, kill some militants.  It will play well with Israeli voters.  Rocket attacks will slow or stop, for awhile.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Razgovory

Quote from: Barrister on November 15, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 03:16:10 PM
Do these invasions actually work?  It seems like we've gone through this routine a few times before.

Define "work".

It'll disrupt Hamas in the short term.  They will seize some supplies, kill some militants.  It will play well with Israeli voters.  Rocket attacks will slow or stop, for awhile.

Oh God let me think.  Work is Force times Distance.  I think.  I don't really remember that well.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 05:08:53 PM
Oh God let me think.  Work is Force times Distance.  I think.  I don't really remember that well.

That's right!  One Newton point for you!
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

DGuller

Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 05:08:53 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 15, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 03:16:10 PM
Do these invasions actually work?  It seems like we've gone through this routine a few times before.

Define "work".

It'll disrupt Hamas in the short term.  They will seize some supplies, kill some militants.  It will play well with Israeli voters.  Rocket attacks will slow or stop, for awhile.

Oh God let me think.  Work is Force times Distance.  I think.  I don't really remember that well.
So, Israel should hit invade Gaza with everything they've got, and go all the way to the other end of it?

Viking

Quote from: Valmy on November 15, 2012, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 15, 2012, 05:08:53 PM
Oh God let me think.  Work is Force times Distance.  I think.  I don't really remember that well.

That's right!  One Newton point for you!

How convenient of Hamas to open the gates of hell right there in Gaza then... shortens the distance thus reducing the work the  :Joos need to get done.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

CountDeMoney

QuoteMiddle East Twitter users mock Arab League's slow response to Gaza
Posted by Max Fisher on November 15, 2012 at 11:43 am

The Arab League has never really had much of a reputation for action or efficiency. Still, its slow response to the unfolding violence between Israel and Gaza-based Hamas is drawing some derision on social media.

Though the United Nations Security Council held an emergency session on Wednesday night to discuss the crisis, the Arab League, which represents neighboring Arab states, will not meet until Saturday. A spokesman had earlier told Reuters that the body would meet "either Thursday or Saturday," which seems to have added to the sense of non-urgency.

Amira Al Hussaini of Global Voices rounded up some of the "ridicule and anger from netizens around the Arab world" toward the Arab League's response. Here are some of her finds (the first two are my favorites), plus a couple I've added.

    When will the Arab world develop the advanced technology of conference calling?

    — عمرو (@3amrB) November 14, 2012

    Imagine the FMs on the phone, none of them knows what buttons to press, everyone speaking at the same time, no one knows who's talking.

    — عمرو (@3amrB) November 14, 2012

    The Arab League, showing a sense of urgency as always, will discuss Israeli attack on Gaza in an emergency meeting... on Saturday.

    — Gregg Carlstrom (@glcarlstrom) November 14, 2012

    [J]Arab League is reportedly getting ready to hold its emergency meeting, may start as soon as the fancy food and drinks to arrive

    — Palestine Video (@PalestineVideo) November 14, 2012

    Why no one takes them seriously———> Arab League to hold "emergency meeting"......... on Saturday #hamas #gaza #Israel

    — Yousef Munayyer (@YousefMunayyer) November 14, 2012

Brazen

Israeli and Palestinian news sources are reporting the same figures of rockets getting through Israel's Iron Dome missile shield (about a third) as a success and failure of the technology respectively.

Brazen

The propaganda war seems terribly old fashioned - WWII tactics using modern media. The latest from @IDFSpokesperson:


DGuller

Quote from: Brazen on November 16, 2012, 09:29:29 AM
The propaganda war seems terribly old fashioned - WWII tactics using modern media. The latest from @IDFSpokesperson:


You mean censorship?  :hmm:

Neil

They deleted the image?  I thought WWII preferred Photoshopping.
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Syt

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