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Argentina lowers voting age to 16

Started by jimmy olsen, November 02, 2012, 08:52:48 AM

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merithyn

Quote from: Neil on November 02, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
Teenagers fit none of those criteria;  They're not significant, they're not people and they have no stake in the system.

I concur! :mad:
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Viking

Yeah, because hormonal teenagers will make much more mature sensible decisions than the present argentine electorate. I'm serious, just look at the record of the presidents the adults pick!
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
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Caliga

*reads OP*

What the French Toast....!?

I think we need to colonize Argentina.  WHITE MAN'S BURDEN
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Valmy

Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
I think we need to colonize Argentina.  WHITE MAN'S BURDEN

Argentinians are white people man.
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Quote from: Valmy on November 02, 2012, 03:58:18 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
I think we need to colonize Argentina.  WHITE MAN'S BURDEN

Argentinians are white people man.

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Neil

Quote from: Valmy on November 02, 2012, 03:58:18 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
I think we need to colonize Argentina.  WHITE MAN'S BURDEN
Argentinians are white people man.
They speak Spanish.  That's not what white people do.
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Quote from: Valmy on November 02, 2012, 03:58:18 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
I think we need to colonize Argentina.  WHITE MAN'S BURDEN

Argentinians are white people man.

I guess that just goes to show that white people are not necessarily as good as they are cracked out to be  :hmm:

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Neil on November 02, 2012, 04:14:08 PM
They speak Spanish.  That's not what white people do.

Yep, that automatically makes them Mexican (mixed Celtiberian/Moor/Aztec), even if their ancestors were from Germany.  :P
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dps

Quote from: Zanza on November 02, 2012, 09:17:00 AM
Why is 16 worse than say 18 or 21? In the end, it's arbitrary and as we allow some other "adult" things at age 16 too (alcohol, driver's license, sexual consent, marriage, joining military etc. depending on jurisdiction), I don't really see an objective argument why voting age can't be set at 16.

Part of the rationale (at least in the US) is that you don't want high school students voting in elections for the local school board.

derspiess

Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
*reads OP*

What the French Toast....!?

I think we need to colonize Argentina.  WHITE MAN'S BURDEN

On it.
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Malthus

Quote from: derspiess on November 04, 2012, 08:46:24 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 02, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
*reads OP*

What the French Toast....!?

I think we need to colonize Argentina.  WHITE MAN'S BURDEN

On it.

Well, you colonized *one* Argentinian. It's a start.  ;)
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Zanza

Quote from: dps on November 04, 2012, 07:38:36 PM
Quote from: Zanza on November 02, 2012, 09:17:00 AM
Why is 16 worse than say 18 or 21? In the end, it's arbitrary and as we allow some other "adult" things at age 16 too (alcohol, driver's license, sexual consent, marriage, joining military etc. depending on jurisdiction), I don't really see an objective argument why voting age can't be set at 16.

Part of the rationale (at least in the US) is that you don't want high school students voting in elections for the local school board.
Why not? That's the one institution they know and care about. I would expect that a majority of 16 year old high school students is rational and moderate. Some kind of participation in what school is about seems to be reasonable, after all they are major stakeholders and are directly affected.

garbon

I don't think they would be rational about decisions for their school. Do you remember being 16?
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