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Existential Ennui of the First Order

Started by Camerus, October 18, 2012, 07:15:37 AM

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Eddie Teach

#45
October 18, 2012, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 18, 2012, 01:08:12 PM
So doing things that make you happy is merely deluding yourself from how unhappy you are? :wacko:

Indeed. :frog:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

mongers

#46
October 18, 2012, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 18, 2012, 03:18:22 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 18, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
Find someone you love, get married, have kids.

You will no longer have time for any of this other stuff

Yeah that sounds like a good plan. Force your misery on a spouse and children!

That's not what CC was suggesting.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Valmy

#47
October 18, 2012, 04:44:22 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 18, 2012, 03:18:22 PM
Yeah that sounds like a good plan. Force your misery on a spouse and children!

No he is saying you will not have time for the ennui that creates the misery.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

#48
October 18, 2012, 04:45:35 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 18, 2012, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 18, 2012, 03:18:22 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 18, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
Find someone you love, get married, have kids.

You will no longer have time for any of this other stuff

Yeah that sounds like a good plan. Force your misery on a spouse and children!

That's not what CC was suggesting.

Except that's the truth of it. Falling in love and having kids doesn't sound to me like a good way out of being unhappy...but rather you'd just inflict in on your children. That's sort of like indulging in the solution that leads to what Betty Friedan called "the problem that has no name."  The only way I could see it work is if having a wife and kids is what would make PP personally fulfilled but giving his negativity (or perhaps ambivalence) towards that in his 2nd post in the thread - don't think that's true.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Lettow77

#49
October 18, 2012, 04:59:11 PM
 Tea, cats and the wonderful people around you.

Making something actually seems to have the opposite effect- creation that comes from your mind doesnt really seem the answer when your problems are internal. Cooking something can be nice, as well.

What do you want your life to be about?
It can't be helped...We'll have to use 'that'

dps

#50
October 18, 2012, 04:59:44 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 18, 2012, 07:15:37 AM
How do *you* combat it?   :sleep:

Wargames, mostly.

mongers

#51
October 18, 2012, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on October 18, 2012, 04:59:11 PM
Tea, cats and the wonderful people around you.

Making something actually seems to have the opposite effect- creation that comes from your mind doesnt really seem the answer when your problems are internal. Cooking something can be nice, as well.

What do you want your life to be about?

:thumbsup:

A nicely positive post from Lettow and you're 'right' "What do you want your life to be about" is a good question/viewpoint.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

CountDeMoney

#52
October 18, 2012, 05:07:58 PM
Too much positive kumbaya bullshit around here.  I'm out.

Ed Anger

#53
October 18, 2012, 05:09:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2012, 05:07:58 PM
Too much positive kumbaya bullshit around here.  I'm out.

Oh c'mon. You can mock me.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Valmy

#54
October 18, 2012, 05:18:09 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on October 18, 2012, 04:59:11 PM
What do you want your life to be about?

Wow Lettow asks a good question.  You have to decide this PP.  People on a mission rarely have existential crises.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#55
October 18, 2012, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: dps on October 18, 2012, 04:59:44 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on October 18, 2012, 07:15:37 AM
How do *you* combat it?   :sleep:

Wargames, mostly.

Well I guess it is better than drugs and booze.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#56
October 18, 2012, 05:19:44 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2012, 05:07:58 PM
Too much positive kumbaya bullshit around here.  I'm out.

Somebody needs a hug!
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

PDH

#57
October 18, 2012, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 18, 2012, 05:18:09 PM
  People on a mission rarely have existential crises.

They are too busy making sure their magic underwear doesn't chafe.
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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"I'm pretty sure my level of depression has nothing to do with how much of a fucking asshole you are."

-CdM

Valmy

#58
October 18, 2012, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: PDH on October 18, 2012, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 18, 2012, 05:18:09 PM
  People on a mission rarely have existential crises.

They are too busy making sure their magic underwear doesn't chafe.

People on Mormon Missions should be having existential crises.  Fuck does that sound horrible.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

#59
October 18, 2012, 05:36:35 PM
Angels in America has a Mormon who suffers an existential crisis.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.
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