POTUS Debate II: The Empire Strikes Back at the Wrath of Electric Mittensaloo

Started by CountDeMoney, October 15, 2012, 08:17:36 PM

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Sheilbh

#540
October 21, 2012, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 18, 2012, 09:09:23 AM

Sounds like nearly everything is a teaspoon, except when it is not.
Not really.  A teaspoons small and holds around 5g.  Then you've got a tablespoon which is larger, around 15g.  In between there's a dessert spoon which is around 10g and soup spoons which are a different shape.

The rest is just about shape or length of handle (or forked :blink:).

Now it seems the threads moved back to the debate so I'll bow out.
Let's bomb Russia!

OttoVonBismarck

#541
October 21, 2012, 06:31:17 PM
I don't think Gallup has any institutional bias, and they have an extremely strong track record historically. (I don't think any candidate who they've shown with more than 50% in a poll in October or later has ever lost election--so they aren't generally wrong.) I've read some news articles where Gallup's head of polling for this has said they obviously have some concerns about being an outliier, and are evaluating their model.

These models tend to be proprietary and guarded secrets, so if I had to put myself in the room at Gallup I'd imagine they're trying to figure out what they've gotten wrong this election. (Aside from guys like Zogby most pollsters don't want to be big outliers.)

I don't know why the pessimism from the Obamiacs. Romney is looking strong nationally but even after the surge Romney trails in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Iowa. He has to win Ohio or Wisconsin and Iowa, if he doesn't then he can't win the Presidency, doesn't matter what a national poll says.

Phillip V

#542
October 21, 2012, 08:04:41 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 21, 2012, 06:31:17 PM
I don't think Gallup has any institutional bias, and they have an extremely strong track record historically. (I don't think any candidate who they've shown with more than 50% in a poll in October or later has ever lost election--so they aren't generally wrong.) I've read some news articles where Gallup's head of polling for this has said they obviously have some concerns about being an outliier, and are evaluating their model.

These models tend to be proprietary and guarded secrets, so if I had to put myself in the room at Gallup I'd imagine they're trying to figure out what they've gotten wrong this election. (Aside from guys like Zogby most pollsters don't want to be big outliers.)

I don't know why the pessimism from the Obamiacs. Romney is looking strong nationally but even after the surge Romney trails in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Iowa. He has to win Ohio or Wisconsin and Iowa, if he doesn't then he can't win the Presidency, doesn't matter what a national poll says.
Very true regarding the additional states that Romney needs to win. However, state polls lag national polling movements since they are not tracked daily. Thus, there is the fear that national momentum will eventually show up in updated snapshot state polls.

CountDeMoney

#543
October 21, 2012, 08:10:32 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on October 21, 2012, 06:31:17 PM
I don't know why the pessimism from the Obamiacs. Romney is looking strong nationally but even after the surge Romney trails in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Iowa. He has to win Ohio or Wisconsin and Iowa, if he doesn't then he can't win the Presidency, doesn't matter what a national poll says.

It could very well come down to a popular v electoral ending.

One thing's for sure, it's not going to be called early.   Lawyers will be warmed up in the bullpen all across the battlefield states, ready to go the next day.

11B4V

#544
October 21, 2012, 08:17:14 PM
It will not be close.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

#545
October 21, 2012, 08:21:24 PM
If Romney wins, he really should send a thank you note to the guys who killed the ambassador in Libya.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ed Anger

#546
October 21, 2012, 08:27:22 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 21, 2012, 08:21:24 PM
If Romney wins, he really should send a thank you note to the guys who killed the ambassador in Libya.

An exploding bundt cake.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

CountDeMoney

#547
October 21, 2012, 08:30:02 PM
I for one look forward to the intriguing possibilities of a Romney presidency's foreign policy.

FunkMonk

#548
October 21, 2012, 08:32:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 08:30:02 PM
I for one look forward to the intriguing possibilities of a Romney presidency's foreign policy.

Meet the new President. Just like the old President.
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

CountDeMoney

#549
October 21, 2012, 08:33:31 PM
No apologies ever, and missiles in Poland for everyone.

FunkMonk

#550
October 21, 2012, 08:36:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 08:33:31 PM
No apologies ever, and missiles in Poland for everyone.

And hundreds of new tanks that the Army doesn't want. WELL YOU'RE GETTING EM ANYWAY
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

Ed Anger

#551
October 21, 2012, 08:37:01 PM
More work for the Lima tank plant!
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

11B4V

#552
October 21, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 21, 2012, 08:32:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 21, 2012, 08:30:02 PM
I for one look forward to the intriguing possibilities of a Romney presidency's foreign policy.

Meet the new President. Just like the old President.

True and he'll never get anywhere. Dems will be butt hurt and will block everything he tries to do.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

#553
October 21, 2012, 08:40:34 PM
We need to work on a New Romney's Army joke about Siegy and outsourcing to China.  There's gotta be one in there somewhere.

CountDeMoney

#554
October 21, 2012, 08:42:14 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on October 21, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
True and he'll never get anywhere. Dems will be butt hurt and will block everything he tries to do.

Nuh uh.  Mittens has promised us that won't happen.  He's such a people person. :wub:
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