Naked student shot dead in Alabama

[CountDeMoney]

23 total incidents.  Let's hear it for the shallow end of the sample pool for statistical analysis.

[DGuller]

23 total incidents.  Let's hear it for the shallow end of the sample pool for statistical analysis.

Yeah, they definitely need to shoot a lot more people before they can call it safe.

[The Brain]

Swedish cops aim at the legs, if possible.

[Neil]

Swedish cops aim at the legs, if possible.

Naturally.  They only need to wound the victims so that the criminals can proceed with their depredations unmolested.

[Syt]

Last year, Austrian police were attacked by a woman with knives. When tazering her didn't help, they put 9 bullets in her. She survived, though. A cop was moderately cut.

[CountDeMoney]

23 total incidents.  Let's hear it for the shallow end of the sample pool for statistical analysis.

Yeah, they definitely need to shoot a lot more people before they can call it safe.

Weak.  100% of your post sucks ass.

[CountDeMoney]

Hey Neil, check this stupidity out:

Before the police fire shots involving a risk of harm to a person, the person must be informed in so far as possible,
first by shouted warnings and then by warning shots, that the police intend to fire if police orders are not observed. It
must also be ensured, in so far as possible, that the person is able to observe the order.

Warning shots are required.  Even gayer than aiming at legs.

[DGuller]

Russian police is also required to fire warning shots, and no one ever accused them of showing mercy towards any civilian they run across.  I recall that in one incident, a cop fired 8 warning shots while chasing the suspect.  Unfortunately for that cop, he was armed with a Makarov.

[CountDeMoney]

So where exactly are these warning shots to be fired?  In the air, where they can come back down someplace?  In the pavement, where they can ricochet into a vehicle's gas tank?  In the wall next to the suspect, where they can ricochet, or go through someone's living room?

What a brilliant policy.  You don't fire a service weapon unless you have a reasonable idea where the round is going to wind up.

Warning shots.  Unreal.

[Neil]

Eurobullets are made out of paper.

[DGuller]

So where exactly are these warning shots to be fired?  In the air, where they can come back down someplace?  In the pavement, where they can ricochet into a vehicle's gas tank?  In the wall next to the suspect, where they can ricochet, or go through someone's living room?

What a brilliant policy.  You don't fire a service weapon unless you have a reasonable idea where the round is going to wind up.

Warning shots.  Unreal.

Yeah, sounds dangerous, but has anyone actually been killed by warning shots falling to the ground?  When the alternative is a policy of shooting to kill whenever force has to be used, you're going to need to come up with stronger objections than "what if the warning shot falls on the nuclear power plant operator, who falls on the control panel and presses the "meltdown" button?"

[Neil]

Wasn't there some shit a few years back about a Muslim wedding killing somebody with their airshots?

[The Brain]

So where exactly are these warning shots to be fired?  In the air, where they can come back down someplace?  In the pavement, where they can ricochet into a vehicle's gas tank?  In the wall next to the suspect, where they can ricochet, or go through someone's living room?

What a brilliant policy.  You don't fire a service weapon unless you have a reasonable idea where the round is going to wind up.

Warning shots.  Unreal.

Yeah, sounds dangerous, but has anyone actually been killed by warning shots falling to the ground?  When the alternative is a policy of shooting to kill whenever force has to be used, you're going to need to come up with stronger objections than "what if the warning shot falls on the nuclear power plant operator, who falls on the control panel and presses the "meltdown" button?"

The meltdown button is a myth.

[CountDeMoney]

Yeah, sounds dangerous, but has anyone actually been killed by warning shots falling to the ground?

I don't know what the percentages are of how many people have been killed or wounded by warning shots in the air--we had a fatality here just a couple of July 4ths ago, from a yahoo--shooting in the air--but I know what the percentages are when they're not.

When the alternative is a policy of shooting to kill whenever force has to be used, you're going to need to come up with stronger objections than "what if the warning shot falls on the nuclear power plant operator, who falls on the control panel and presses the "meltdown" button?"

I certainly wouldn't bother with a warning shot to shoot you in the fucking mouth, that's for sure.

[DGuller]

Wasn't there some shit a few years back about a Muslim wedding killing somebody with their airshots?

Yes, falling bullets can kill (though I'm not sure if pistol bullets have enough of a terminal velocity and the height to do it).  However, shooting a gun in general is dangerous, and bystanders can always get hurt.  It's a matter of contrasting different options, you don't get to critique a certain method in isolation.  When the benchmark method is shooting to kill whenever you have to shoot, the bar is fairly low to find a better alternative method, as dangerous as it would be itself.