Mideast Christians Leaving for Sane Places, Not Spawning like Possums

Started by Queequeg, May 13, 2009, 02:20:00 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Siege on May 13, 2009, 09:10:21 PM
I would call it religious cleansing.
When there is a religion that doesn't play well with others, it is our moral duty to eliminate it.

You cannot really eliminate a 1 billion person religion even if such a thing was not completely counter to everything we Westerners represent.  Freedom of thought, expression, and religion remember?
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Neil

Quote from: Siege on May 13, 2009, 09:10:21 PM
I would call it religious cleansing.
When there is a religion that doesn't play well with others, it is our moral duty to eliminate it.
They were doing just fine before the Israelis came along.  The solution is to eliminate Israel.
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Queequeg

QuoteFor some reaosn, I read this statement and my first thought was "All Germans in Eastern Europe after 1918."
Or what the Germans did to the Jews.  Empires that are comfortable with minorities tend to be the better ones. 
QuoteEthnic cleansing. The cause of, and solution ot, all of life's problems!
"Should."

They are now landless, scattered into the wind by a host of the brutal, ignorant jihadists and the worst governments that side of Sub-Saharan Africa.  Should have given them, and the Kurds, their own country.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Razgovory

Why must everyone always have their own homeland?  My ancestors didn't feel the need for a homeland so great that they didn't pack up and leave for America.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on May 13, 2009, 10:40:07 PM
Why must everyone always have their own homeland?  My ancestors didn't feel the need for a homeland so great that they didn't pack up and leave for America.

If they didn't feel the need for a homeland then why did they establish one in America?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Queequeg

Quote from: Valmy on May 13, 2009, 10:50:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 13, 2009, 10:40:07 PM
Why must everyone always have their own homeland?  My ancestors didn't feel the need for a homeland so great that they didn't pack up and leave for America.

If they didn't feel the need for a homeland then why did they establish one in America?
I think everyone here, no matter how much they hate the Mid-East, has to admit that it is better than Detroit.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

garbon

Quote from: Razgovory on May 13, 2009, 10:40:07 PM
Why must everyone always have their own homeland?

I don't know. It is a very bizarre concept to me.  While I'd be sad if I never went to Southern California again, I'd manage. :)
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HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Faeelin on May 13, 2009, 09:07:50 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 13, 2009, 02:20:00 PM
You know what makes a brilliant, advanced society?  Kicking out all the educated, hard working minorities.  Yup.  Nothing quite like it.

For some reaosn, I read this statement and my first thought was "All Germans in Eastern Europe after 1918."

QuoteWe should have made Lebanon into some kind of Israel for Mid-East Christians.  Maybe include the entire Levantine coast north of Israel, including the Syrian coast.  Real shame that the greatest people of the region are forced to leave because the region's growing insanity.

Ethnic cleansing. The cause of, and solution ot, all of life's problems!

It worked for the Turks. :)
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Alatriste

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on May 14, 2009, 03:45:24 AM
It worked for the Turks. :)

Irrelevant. Since Turks were being cleansed from Greece at the same time the net effect should be zero, unless we invert the shield polarity flux capacitor output :nerd:

Razgovory

Quote from: Valmy on May 13, 2009, 10:50:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 13, 2009, 10:40:07 PM
Why must everyone always have their own homeland?  My ancestors didn't feel the need for a homeland so great that they didn't pack up and leave for America.

If they didn't feel the need for a homeland then why did they establish one in America?

They established a home.  Not a homeland. Most of them didn't have any thought of carving out their own country in the New World.  Maybe one...
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Caliga

Quote from: Martinus on May 13, 2009, 05:35:27 PM
While it's not an universal rule, monotheists seem to have a tendency to be more stuck up and full of themselves, metaphysically and theologically, than polytheists. Plus, as a Westerner, their beliefs have a much greater (and negative) influence on my life. Perhaps if I lived in India, I'd sneer at polytheists.

Don't forget that Marti used to be a Wiccan.  :)
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Quote from: Caliga on May 14, 2009, 06:58:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 13, 2009, 05:35:27 PM
While it's not an universal rule, monotheists seem to have a tendency to be more stuck up and full of themselves, metaphysically and theologically, than polytheists. Plus, as a Westerner, their beliefs have a much greater (and negative) influence on my life. Perhaps if I lived in India, I'd sneer at polytheists.

Don't forget that Marti used to be a Wiccan.  :)

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saskganesh

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 14, 2009, 07:01:28 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 14, 2009, 06:58:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 13, 2009, 05:35:27 PM
While it's not an universal rule, monotheists seem to have a tendency to be more stuck up and full of themselves, metaphysically and theologically, than polytheists. Plus, as a Westerner, their beliefs have a much greater (and negative) influence on my life. Perhaps if I lived in India, I'd sneer at polytheists.

Don't forget that Marti used to be a Wiccan.  :)

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Razgovory

Quote from: Caliga on May 14, 2009, 06:58:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 13, 2009, 05:35:27 PM
While it's not an universal rule, monotheists seem to have a tendency to be more stuck up and full of themselves, metaphysically and theologically, than polytheists. Plus, as a Westerner, their beliefs have a much greater (and negative) influence on my life. Perhaps if I lived in India, I'd sneer at polytheists.

Don't forget that Marti used to be a Wiccan.  :)

You have got to be shitting me.  It's like he's repulsed by idea of being taken seriously or respected.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Faeelin

Quote from: Valmy on May 13, 2009, 09:44:16 PM
I presume you meant all Germans in Eastern Europe after 1945.  And Hitler sort of set them up by using them as a fifth column for his Eastern Europe ambitions.  The Eastern Europeans came to see the Germans as a security risk since they sorta had been for ten years.  And it was World War 2 and what had been unthinkable in 1935 was suddenly standard operation by 1945.  Context is important.  The Eastern Europeans certainly would never have done that in 1918 and without the horror of World War 2.

But tens of thousands of Germans were expelled after 1918; over a hundred thousand "voluntarily departed" from Poland alone. In some countries, the use of German was forbidden, German churches were oppressed,

Orphans of Versailles is a really good book on Poland's Germans. And boy, did 1939 feel sweet for a lot of them.

A lot of the batshittiness that comes out of the Islamic world sounds very similar to Europe less than a hundred years ago.