NFL Week 3

[sbr]

Why are people so worked up about Hochuli getting back?  He actually made a worse call than tonight and cost a team a win a few years ago. 

[MadBurgerMaker]

Why are people so worked up about Hochuli getting back?  He actually made a worse call than tonight and cost a team a win a few years ago.

If you're talking about the Denver - San Diego fumble thing, there's no way that was worse.  The Broncos still had to actually score the TD and get a 2pt conversion to win.  He didn't just hand them 8 points and a W.

[sbr]

Why are people so worked up about Hochuli getting back?  He actually made a worse call than tonight and cost a team a win a few years ago.

If you're talking about the Denver - San Diego fumble thing, there's no way that was worse.  The Broncos still had to actually score the TD and get a 2pt conversion to win.

Of course it was. The SD/Denver play was in the open and there was absolutely no doubt that it was a backward pass and a fumble.  Tonight was tough to see what happened at full speed.  The offensive PI is never going to be called, the ex-official on ESPN said as much.  The catch/intereption was very tough to see at full speed, Tate eventually came out of the pile with the ball and the possession was not reviewable.

EDIT:  And wait, what?  Sand Diego recovered the fumble and won the game.  Hochuli gave the ball back to Denver, how did that not directly effect the outcome of the game?

[jimmy olsen]

 
http://deadspin.com/5946112/the-lingerie-football-league-announces-that-it-fired-a-couple-crews-which-apparently-are-now-officiating-in-the-nfl-because-of-incompetence

The Lingerie Football League Announces That It Fired "A Couple Crews Which Apparently Are Now Officiating In The NFL" Because Of Incompetence

Jack Dickey   

After the Hall of Fame game in August, Mike Pereira let it slip that Craig Ochoa, the referee who worked that game, had been fired from the Lingerie Football League. The Lingerie Football League—which recently uprooted itself from its US host cities to barnstorm in Canada, the United States, and Australia over the next year—didn't respond to our request for comment on Pereira's charge then.

But now they have, and, boy, oh boy, this is great:



    Because of the LFL's perception it is that much more critical for us to hire officiating crews that are competent, not only for the credibility of our game but to keep our athletes safer. Due to several on-field incompetent officiating we chose to part ways with with a couple crews which apparently are now officiating in the NFL. We have a lot of respect for our officials but we felt the officiating was not in line with our expectations.

    We have not made public comment to date because we felt it was not our place to do so. However in light of tonight's event, we felt it was only fair that NFL fans knew the truth as to who are officiating these games.


If there was ever a reason for a public statement from a third-tier football league at 12:28 a.m. on a Tuesday, tonight's debacle was it. And, yup, Roger Goodell, you just got served. By the commissioner of the Lingerie Football League. Eat it.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Of course it was. The SD/Denver play was in the open and there was absolutely no doubt that it was a backward pass and a fumble.  Tonight was tough to see what happened at full speed.  The offensive PI is never going to be called, the ex-official on ESPN said as much.  The catch/intereption was very tough to see at full speed, Tate eventually came out of the pile with the ball and the possession was not reviewable.

Tate didn't have shit, and it wasn't hard to see.



That's the refs leg right there. 

EDIT:  And wait, what?  Sand Diego recovered the fumble and won the game.  Hochuli gave the ball back to Denver, how did that not directly effect the outcome of the game?

Wait, what, what?  Denver still had to score the points to win, did they not?  Hell, they had to get into the endzone twice to get the win.  Hochuli didn't put them there.

E: That photo there is what that guy was actually looking at.  That is a complete fuck up that directly put the game winning points on the board. 

[MadBurgerMaker]

http://deadspin.com/5946112/the-lingerie-football-league-announces-that-it-fired-a-couple-crews-which-apparently-are-now-officiating-in-the-nfl-because-of-incompetence

The Lingerie Football League Announces That It Fired "A Couple Crews Which Apparently Are Now Officiating In The NFL" Because Of Incompetence

Jack Dickey   

After the Hall of Fame game in August, Mike Pereira let it slip that Craig Ochoa, the referee who worked that game, had been fired from the Lingerie Football League. The Lingerie Football League—which recently uprooted itself from its US host cities to barnstorm in Canada, the United States, and Australia over the next year—didn't respond to our request for comment on Pereira's charge then.

But now they have, and, boy, oh boy, this is great:



    Because of the LFL's perception it is that much more critical for us to hire officiating crews that are competent, not only for the credibility of our game but to keep our athletes safer. Due to several on-field incompetent officiating we chose to part ways with with a couple crews which apparently are now officiating in the NFL. We have a lot of respect for our officials but we felt the officiating was not in line with our expectations.

    We have not made public comment to date because we felt it was not our place to do so. However in light of tonight's event, we felt it was only fair that NFL fans knew the truth as to who are officiating these games.


If there was ever a reason for a public statement from a third-tier football league at 12:28 a.m. on a Tuesday, tonight's debacle was it. And, yup, Roger Goodell, you just got served. By the commissioner of the Lingerie Football League. Eat it.

 

[Sophie Scholl]

Of course it was. The SD/Denver play was in the open and there was absolutely no doubt that it was a backward pass and a fumble.  Tonight was tough to see what happened at full speed.  The offensive PI is never going to be called, the ex-official on ESPN said as much.  The catch/intereption was very tough to see at full speed, Tate eventually came out of the pile with the ball and the possession was not reviewable.

Tate didn't have shit, and it wasn't hard to see.



That's the refs leg right there. 

EDIT:  And wait, what?  Sand Diego recovered the fumble and won the game.  Hochuli gave the ball back to Denver, how did that not directly effect the outcome of the game?

Wait, what, what?  Denver still had to score the points to win, did they not?  Hell, they had to get into the endzone twice to get the win.  Hochuli didn't put them there.

E: That photo there is what that guy was actually looking at.  That is a complete fuck up that directly put the game winning points on the board.

Yes, Denver still had to score, but it has been found to be difficult to score when you don't have the ball and the other team can run out the clock to win.  As for tonight, it was an ugly call, but by far not the worst I've seen in a game.  See:  The previously mentioned Super Bowls for much worse calls/no calls in a game of a much larger importance.  Tate had an arm underneath so Jennings didn't have the ball to his chest, one of the steps necessary for "control" as per the rules brought up by commentators.  He also had his other arm in front, making it appear to be much more of a split play than the slo-mo replays show.  Given the real time viewing of the play, even by the ref whose leg is in the picture and had the backs of both players to view, the call on the field is understandable as per the letter of the rules.  If the "real" refs were there, I could see them making the same call, yet not have this shitstorm of an uproar due to the NFL, the commentators for the game, the major networks, the players, and the coaches all supporting the legitimacy of their position.  The NFL has positioned the replacement refs in an untenable position by giving them tepid support for their efforts at best and silence at worst.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Yes, Denver still had to score, but it has been found to be difficult to score when you don't have the ball and the other team can run out the clock to win.

No one said it wasn't a shitty call, but no matter how shitty it was, it did not put points on the board.   

Tate had an arm underneath so Jennings didn't have the ball to his chest, one of the steps necessary for "control" as per the rules brought up by commentators.  He also had his other arm in front, making it appear to be much more of a split play than the slo-mo replays show.

Please.  Tate had possession of Jennings more than he did the ball.  When the refs ran up, that picture above is what they saw. 

Given the real time viewing of the play, even by the ref whose leg is in the picture and had the backs of both players to view, the call on the field is understandable as per the letter of the rules.

Full speed, it's a pick.  Half speed, it's a pick.  Super slo-mo, it's a pick.  Still image, it's a pick.  I don't know what you're looking at, but that play there was an interception. 

If the "real" refs were there, I could see them making the same call, yet not have this shitstorm of an uproar due to the NFL, the commentators for the game, the major networks, the players, and the coaches all supporting the legitimacy of their position.  The NFL has positioned the replacement refs in an untenable position by giving them tepid support for their efforts at best and silence at worst.

Or they could make the correct call.  You know: interception.  We don't know for sure though because it was scabs in this one who may or may not have been fired from the Lingerie League for being shitty.  Not real refs.

[CountDeMoney]

Given the real time viewing of the play, even by the ref whose leg is in the picture and had the backs of both players to view, the call on the field is understandable as per the letter of the rules.

Full speed, it's a pick.  Half speed, it's a pick.  Super slo-mo, it's a pick.  Still image, it's a pick.  I don't know what you're looking at, but that play there was an interception. 

LOL, you had a back judge calling for time stoppage prior to signalling touchback, and you had another ref calling touchdown.  Simultaneously.
But did the Umpire come in a talk it through with them to break down the play and see who had the better angle? No.

That last drive was a complete abomination:  that wasn't roughing the passer, that wasn't pass interference on Rice, and that sure as shit wasn't a touchdown.

And I thought after Sunday night, we had seen the extremes of the scab refs.  But no, there was still Monday Night Football to suffer through.

[frunk]

I think you can find games from previous years with more questionable calls, but I don't think you'll find weeks of games from previous years with the frequency of questionable calls that we've seen this year.  They are in almost every game, and there's a lot of them.

[CountDeMoney]

At least I don't have to see Ed Hochuli.

Your union-hating has no bounds, does it?

[katmai]

My ass got lucky.

Frozen Wetbacks got 27 points from Matt Ryan and 16 from Santonio Holmes to beat NOLO Contenders 88 - 78. Both sides fell short of expectations, but Frozen Wetbacks scored 99.7% of a projected 88.28 points to pick up the win. NOLO Contenders was done in by a drop in scoring from last week's 137 - 71 win against Cincy Jailbirdz. Things could have been different, NOLO Contenders had two starters score zero points (Mark Ingram and LaRod Stephens-Howling). Frozen Wetbacks (2-1, 279 points) climbs into fifth place while NOLO Contenders (1-2, 300 points) drops to ninth place.

Frozen Wetbacks Smooth Moves

The 27 points scored by Matt Ryan ranked fifth in the league in scoring this week and second for any player on Frozen Wetbacks this season.
Sat Steve Breaston, who scored fewer points than any WR in the starting lineup with 1.
Jacoby Jones, who was picked up by Frozen Wetbacks, scored 7 points against a projected 4.64, topping his projection by 50.9%.
Santonio Holmes scored 16 points, the seventh-highest WR score in the league this week.
The 14 points were a season-high for Nate Washington. The score beat his 6.36-point projection by 120.1%, which also was a season-high.
NOLO Contenders Regret Tracker

Did not start Matt Schaub, who scored 33 points to rank second in the league in scoring.
Missed out on an opportunity by leaving the 3 points scored by Evan Royster on the bench this week. He outperformed his projected point total by 581.8%, the sixth-highest percentage in the league.
Should have started Heath Miller, who beat his scoring projection with 23 points against a projected 6.95.
Ben Tate was last in the matchup in scoring with -1 point.
NOLO Contenders had 2 of their 10 starters score zero points.

[Neil]

The worst part of it is that what we should be talking about is the great performance by the Seattle D.

[katmai]

They were amazing for 30 mins. Then meh for 2nd half.

[CountDeMoney]

Penn State Day Care dismantled Meatheads 135 - 51 while also putting up the second-highest point total this season. These two teams have matching 1-2 records, but Penn State Day Care has a clear lead in points, 299 - 219. It was a bragging-rights result, and the 84-point margin of victory was the highest recorded in the league this season. Penn State Day Care started one player with zero points while Meatheads served up two goose eggs, meaning both teams could have scored more points.