Romney: 47% of Americans are losers, don't care about 'em

Started by Queequeg, September 17, 2012, 06:10:32 PM

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Barrister

Quote from: ulmont on September 19, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
Well my opinion seems to be confirmed by Syt's graph in the post right above yours, so :P to you.

Not really.  Note that in the second most poor group, 15-30000, you've got over 1/3 Republican votes.

15-30k sounds like working poor to me.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

ulmont

Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: ulmont on September 19, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
Well my opinion seems to be confirmed by Syt's graph in the post right above yours, so :P to you.

Not really.  Note that in the second most poor group, 15-30000, you've got over 1/3 Republican votes.

15-30k sounds like working poor to me.

Not if it's a household number, and at that point you're still getting direct tax credits to help support any kids.

Razgovory

Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: ulmont on September 19, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
Well my opinion seems to be confirmed by Syt's graph in the post right above yours, so :P to you.

Not really.  Note that in the second most poor group, 15-30000, you've got over 1/3 Republican votes.

15-30k sounds like working poor to me.

And they can still get government assistance!
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Barrister

Quote from: Razgovory on September 19, 2012, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: ulmont on September 19, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
Well my opinion seems to be confirmed by Syt's graph in the post right above yours, so :P to you.

Not really.  Note that in the second most poor group, 15-30000, you've got over 1/3 Republican votes.

15-30k sounds like working poor to me.

And they can still get government assistance!

And?
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

derspiess

Quote from: Gups on September 19, 2012, 10:49:41 AM
Syt's graph looks off to me. Why is the "other/none" column so tiny, when trunout is around 60%

I'm guessing the graph only represents voters.  "Other" would be people who voted for a third party candidate and "None" would be for people who left Presidential Candidate blank on their ballot.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 19, 2012, 10:39:10 AM
QuoteIn December 2009, the New York Times published a series of related articles showing that poor whites across Appalachia and the Mississippi Delta and through the Midwest, Deep South and Texas borderlands were the highest percentage of Americans relying on the SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), or food stamp, program.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/29/us/29foodstamps.html?_r=0
And guess who consistently carry those states?

Food Stamps--They're Just Not For Niggers Anymore

Wait a minute.  If this is true, don't you have to drop the "OMG talking about food stamps is using a raciss dog whistle term" bullshit?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on September 19, 2012, 11:07:23 AM
Wait a minute.  If this is true, don't you have to drop the "OMG talking about food stamps is using a raciss dog whistle term" bullshit?

Nope.  I like my dog whistles.

Razgovory

Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 11:04:01 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 19, 2012, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: ulmont on September 19, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
Well my opinion seems to be confirmed by Syt's graph in the post right above yours, so :P to you.

Not really.  Note that in the second most poor group, 15-30000, you've got over 1/3 Republican votes.

15-30k sounds like working poor to me.

And they can still get government assistance!

And?

And significant numbers of them vote for the GOP.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Razgovory on September 19, 2012, 11:15:38 AM
And significant numbers of them vote for the GOP.

But the majority don't.

Besides, the government does other things besides decide how much money to take out of wallets and how much, if any, to put back in other wallets.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Barrister

Quote from: Razgovory on September 19, 2012, 11:15:38 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 11:04:01 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 19, 2012, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:52:39 AM
Quote from: ulmont on September 19, 2012, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
Well my opinion seems to be confirmed by Syt's graph in the post right above yours, so :P to you.

Not really.  Note that in the second most poor group, 15-30000, you've got over 1/3 Republican votes.

15-30k sounds like working poor to me.

And they can still get government assistance!

And?

And significant numbers of them vote for the GOP.

And?

Really.  What is the point you are trying to make.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Gups

Romney said all such people vote Dem.

You said almost all.

You are both wrong.

I think that's the point that's being made.

Barrister

Quote from: Gups on September 19, 2012, 11:24:01 AM
Romney said all such people vote Dem.

You said almost all.

You are both wrong.

I think that's the point that's being made.

I said people who exist entirely on government support vote overwhelmingly democratic.  I stand by that.  I also clearly stated that "working poor", who still receive government assistance, are more mixed in their party support.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Razgovory

There's no real category where Republicans are overwhelming Dems.  Possibly because there are less Republicans.  Possibly because that last election was had a pretty poor showing for McCain.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

Quote from: Razgovory on September 19, 2012, 11:33:40 AM
There's no real category where Republicans are overwhelming Dems.  Possibly because there are less Republicans.  Possibly because that last election was had a pretty poor showing for McCain.

Strictly at policies there does seem like there might be a difference between the candidates - though that's strictly on economic grounds.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/22/news/economy/middle-class-election/index.html
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Gups

Quote from: Barrister on September 19, 2012, 11:25:54 AM
I said people who exist entirely on government support vote overwhelmingly democratic.  I stand by that.  I also clearly stated that "working poor", who still receive government assistance, are more mixed in their party support.

You said "dependent" not "exist entirely". One can work and still be dependent on govt assistance. And you said "almost all" not "overwhelmingly" (the last may be pedantic but in my mind almost all is close to 100% while overwhelmingly is a less precise phrase).