Romney: 47% of Americans are losers, don't care about 'em

[Razgovory]

Like I said.  This won't hurt him much, because conservatives believe it.

[MadImmortalMan]

There's no real category where Republicans are overwhelming Dems.  Possibly because there are less Republicans.  Possibly because that last election was had a pretty poor showing for McCain.

Democrats have outnumbered Republicans as long as we've been alive.

[The Minsky Moment]

Jesus H Chocolate Covered Christ on a stick, people.

Sometimes people go to church, not out of "intellectual curiosity" or "nominal religiosity" or any of the other bullshit reasons you fucking noodleheads are overthinking, as fucking usual.

Sometimes people go to church because it's a goddamned community thing, it's usually the largest collective activity in the community particularly in the urban environment, and they have some wicked fried chicken dinners afterwards.  Fuck.

That's an American thing, it doesn't translate to the continental experience of institutional state churches.  The Founders were right - radical disestablishment strengthened religion by forcing religion to integrate fully with civil society.

[Jacob]

[Jacob]

Source of the image: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/where-are-the-47-of-americans-who-pay-no-income-taxes/262499/

[garbon]

Source of the image: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/where-are-the-47-of-americans-who-pay-no-income-taxes/262499/

And from your link:

Update: My colleague Derek Thompson picks up the baton from me and digs deeper into the demographics of the so-called 47 percent. One important note he makes is that it's often the lowest-income people in these red states who are most likely to vote Democratic -- it's just that the rest of the population is conservative enough to carry the states into the Republican column.

In 2008, Obama lost Georgia by 5 percentage points but he won 70% of voters who earned less than $30,000 -- which is precisely the demo most likely to owe no federal income tax. Obama lost Mississippi by 14 percentage points, but picked up 66% of voters who earned less than $30,000. As a general rule, Republicans win among richer voters -- both in the red states and the blue.

[derspiess]

Jacob cares way too much about US politics.

[Habbaku]

He seems to care a reasonable amount to me.  US policies can have dramatic effects on Canada, after all.

[Legbiter]

Romney focused on income tax in his speech, i.e. around 47% of the American people are resentful wastrels, living on the government teat because they pay no income tax. Isn't that the fault of Republicans like Reagan and Bush, who lowered income tax?

Then Republicans turn around and bitch in Eurofag class warfare terms about the welfare queens, just by looking at income tax. 

[Jacob]

Jacob cares way too much about US politics.

US politics are pretty entertaining, especially around presidential elections. It's like the Stanley Cup or Championship League.

Chinese politics are pretty fascinating too, but people here are much less invested in them and generally the English language debate isn't as wide and deep as the one surrounding US elections.

[Jacob]

And from your link:

Yeah I saw that. All kinds of interesting analysis can be done from that situation.

[Jacob]

He seems to care a reasonable amount to me.  US policies can have dramatic effects on Canada, after all.

Like I said, it's like the Stanley Cup playoffs or the Championship League - a great spectacle.

And yeah, there are definite repercussions for Canada and the world from American elections, so of course there's a bit of a stake; ultimately, however, it's about the fact that it makes for a great show if you're interested in politics. And I am.

[Habbaku]

He seems to care a reasonable amount to me.  US policies can have dramatic effects on Canada, after all.

Like I said, it's like the Stanley Cup playoffs or the Championship League - a great spectacle.

And yeah, there are definite repercussions for Canada and the world from American elections, so of course there's a bit of a stake; ultimately, however, it's about the fact that it makes for a great show if you're interested in politics. And I am.

It's a great show if you're interested in politics and live somewhere else.  I was sick of election stuff two months ago.

[Jacob]

It's a great show if you're interested in politics and live somewhere else.  I was sick of election stuff two months ago.

Oh definitely 

What makes it a great show is that I can turn it off and ignore it if I feel like it.

[garbon]

And from your link:

Yeah I saw that. All kinds of interesting analysis can be done from that situation.

My point was that the chart you posted is rather misleading.