25 years old and deep in debt

[CountDeMoney]

But supposeduly she has some percentage of native american blood. Supposedly. They were not sure whether it was enough for her to qualify as a minority though, so they tried ot find out what it means to claim you are a minority on an application, and whether or not she would be considered one.

They could not get a straight answer. Turns out the actual definition is "Anyone who checks something other than the 'White/Caucasian" box on the application". She selected "Other" and provided zero evidence or any kind of documentation, nor did they ask.

But she got in.

That is incredible.  Just check off 'African American' and claim that all humans originally came from Africa.

Because Berkut knows with complete and definitive evidence that that is precisely the reason she got in.

[Berkut]

But supposeduly she has some percentage of native american blood. Supposedly. They were not sure whether it was enough for her to qualify as a minority though, so they tried ot find out what it means to claim you are a minority on an application, and whether or not she would be considered one.

They could not get a straight answer. Turns out the actual definition is "Anyone who checks something other than the 'White/Caucasian" box on the application". She selected "Other" and provided zero evidence or any kind of documentation, nor did they ask.

But she got in.

That is incredible.  Just check off 'African American' and claim that all humans originally came from Africa.

Because Berkut knows with complete and definitive evidence that that is precisely the reason she got in.

Nobody knows the reason she got in - they don't send you a letter that says "Hey, we totally would never take you except that you are a poor, down-trodden minority! Congrats, your in!"

Maybe she would have gotten in no matter what she checked. It is impossible to say.

But what we do know is that there is no control of any kind on checking that box. Anyone can do so, and no questions will be asked.

[CountDeMoney]

That's right, they don't send letters like that.
Which is why anecdotes like that do nothing but stir the pot for people with hang ups over Affirmative Action.  And unless you're on an academic admissions board, you don't know what questions are asked.

But hey, let's all check the Nigger box, and cruise through life.  Because they've got it so damned good.

[Valmy]

That's right, they don't send letters like that.
Which is why anecdotes like that do nothing but stir the pot for people with hang ups over Affirmative Action.  And unless you're on an academic admissions board, you don't know what questions are asked.

But hey, let's all check the Nigger box, and cruise through life.  Because they've got it so damned good.

Checking a box and looking like one are pretty different.  Anyway I was mocking the cynicism of it, not that I actually condone doing that.

[Berkut]

That's right, they don't send letters like that.
Which is why anecdotes like that do nothing but stir the pot for people with hang ups over Affirmative Action.  And unless you're on an academic admissions board, you don't know what questions are asked.

But hey, let's all check the Nigger box, and cruise through life.  Because they've got it so damned good.

Can't you check your racism for an occasional thread?

[CountDeMoney]

Right; I'm the racist, because I'm the one that thinks criticisms and concerns over racially-based college admissions are overrated, overblown and over-exaggerated.

[Valmy]

Right; I'm the racist, because I'm the one that thinks criticisms and concerns over racially-based college admissions are overrated, overblown and over-exaggerated.

Isn't that exactly what we showed in this thread?

[CountDeMoney]

Fuck if I know.  157 pages, I can't remember what I had for breakfast.

[Berkut]

Right; I'm the racist, because I'm the one that thinks criticisms and concerns over racially-based college admissions are overrated, overblown and over-exaggerated.

Your the racist because in every single discussion about race, you immediately turn it into some kind of "us vs them" issue, and cannot resist throwing out shit like "nigger" every two seconds in an effort to make the discussion as low brow and emotive as possible.

Sorry, I don't think that actual facts are EVER irrelevant to any discussion, and I don't even have any problem with giving preferences based on a variety of classes (including arbitrary and impossible to quantify one like "race") in admissions. But that doesn't change the fact that it is basically impossible from a practical standpoint for colleges to even accurately assess whether such preference is even deserved by some potential applicant.

But keeping dropping "Nigger!" every chance you get, it sure makes you seem oh so rational and reasoned.

[Eddie Teach]

It's ok cause Seedy's black.

[Admiral Yi]

That's right, they don't send letters like that.
Which is why anecdotes like that do nothing but stir the pot for people with hang ups over Affirmative Action.  And unless you're on an academic admissions board, you don't know what questions are asked.

But hey, let's all check the Nigger box, and cruise through life.  Because they've got it so damned good.

It's wonderful that yours goes to 11; it's a pity you never use 1-10.

[DGuller]

It's ok cause Seedy's black.

Maybe his heart, but that's about it.

[Eddie Teach]

It's ok cause Seedy's black.

Maybe his heart, but that's about it.

He's eating all your sex and your diamonds?

[Darth Wagtaros]

It's not like the applicant pool to Harvard is a bunch of tools.

I remember when we argued for 20 minutes with the 3 Harvardtards running our Model UN committee who insisted Spain wasn't a member of NATO.   

I used to have to go to the Harvard MUN.  Bunch of elitist fucks.

[CountDeMoney]

Your the racist because in every single discussion about race, you immediately turn it into some kind of "us vs them" issue, and cannot resist throwing out shit like "nigger" every two seconds in an effort to make the discussion as low brow and emotive as possible.

Every discussion here is low brow and emotive.

Sorry, I don't think that actual facts are EVER irrelevant to any discussion, and I don't even have any problem with giving preferences based on a variety of classes (including arbitrary and impossible to quantify one like "race") in admissions. But that doesn't change the fact that it is basically impossible from a practical standpoint for colleges to even accurately assess whether such preference is even deserved by some potential applicant.

And so what if it's "impossible" to verify?  It's all self-reported information anyway, and by the very nature of being self-reported, it's never going to be the single determining factor with universities and colleges for admissions preferences in the whole person application when stacked with required verifiable factors like transcripts and residency.  Might as well say the hobbies listed in an applicant's personal statement plays the biggest factor.  And if an institution is going to use such statistical information as a basis for the inclusion of diversity, the checked box for race by itself isn't going to be the one determining factor.

So whether or not it's verifiable, so what.  Nobody gets in based solely on a checked box, and the percentages that one student of color specifically bumps another student out of the running is so incrementally small, it's not even worth worrying about.

And on the opposite end, if an applicant feels their academic accomplishments are so weak they're compelled enough to lie about self-volunteered information on an application a la Dorsey4Heisman, they're probably not in the position to make the admissions cut anyway.

But keeping dropping "Nigger!" every chance you get, it sure makes you seem oh so rational and reasoned.

"Pacific Islander" takes too long to type.