25 years old and deep in debt

[citizen k]

[Valmy]

What the?  What is all of our social security paying for besides getting those old geezers out of the work force?

[Eddie Teach]

Well, some may be waiting til they're 67 or 70 or whatever the age where they can start collecting the biggest benefits.

[fhdz]

Well, some may be waiting til they're 67 or 70 or whatever the age where they can start collecting the biggest benefits.

And what massive, rewarding benefits they are.

[Eddie Teach]

Well, it's a much larger monthly payout than they get if they retire at 62.

[fhdz]

Well, it's a much larger monthly payout than they get if they retire at 62.

No argument there.

[Ideologue]

Runners better run.

[LaCroix]

my roommate is a commercial aviation major, undergrad. she has a year left and has over $100,000 in debt. this is while attending a fairly cheap university. from what she's said, her prospects are hopefully landing a flight instructor gig (at the university) where she would earn $40-50k/year max. a handful of graduates get jobs with airlines, but when there are over a thousand students in the program, those are pretty awful prospects. pretty sure she's fucked

[Jacob]

my roommate is a commercial aviation major, undergrad. she has a year left and has over $100,000 in debt. this is while attending a fairly cheap university. from what she's said, her prospects are hopefully landing a flight instructor gig (at the university) where she would earn $40-50k/year max. a handful of graduates get jobs with airlines, but when there are over a thousand students in the program, those are pretty awful prospects. pretty sure she's fucked

In Canada, the usual route for commercial aviators is to spend a number of years being bush-pilots; basically flying smallish planes to outlying communities, primarily those connected with the resource industries. From what I understand, it's hard work and somewhat dangerous, but the hours and experience eventually allows for transition into more civilized work.

I guess there are no similar venues available to French aviators? Maybe working in French Africa?

[Capetan Mihali]

I think LaCroix is from North Dakota...

[LaCroix]

i'm one of them north dakotans 

from what i've read, one of the main (and possibly only) factors is the number of hours you have flying. you can get this through the military, where naturally it's free, or through years of private lessons with flight instructors while you get your 4-year degree as a non-aviation major, or through a university that has a commercial aviation program. if you plan accordingly, the private lessons can apparently cost about a third as much as it would going the university aviation route

but my roommate decided to become a pilot when she was talking to some guy at a bar about her idea of being a flight attendant, to which he responded, "why not fly the planes instead?" so, i don't think she put much thought into her decision

[Jacob]

Ah...if she's American the bush pilot route is probably more viable. Guy I knew back in the day did that and transferred successfully to a commercial city based line five years later or so. Another buddy of mine is just about to embark on the same route, but as a helicopter pilot.

[Phillip V]

my roommate is a commercial aviation major, undergrad. she has a year left and has over $100,000 in debt. this is while attending a fairly cheap university. from what she's said, her prospects are hopefully landing a flight instructor gig (at the university) where she would earn $40-50k/year max. a handful of graduates get jobs with airlines, but when there are over a thousand students in the program, those are pretty awful prospects. pretty sure she's fucked

If she gets fucked by the right guy, he can pay her debts.

[Ideologue]

Jacob, someone's being not progressive.

[PDH]

*takes a drink*