25 years old and deep in debt

[Caliga]

Cal not nearly enough, one line of googling reveals your employer. 

To be safe maybe you should edit/redact the post ?

I re-read it like 3 times and don't see how, but post deleted.

[Berkut]

What we have here is an employment of "if all 5 conditions are satisfied" logic where "if 3 out of 5 conditions are satisfied" logic is more appropriate.  To be fair, the former is a much simpler statement to evaluate, and simple logic appeals to simple people.

Indeed.

And the other issue is that even if your attitude is "3/5 is good", putting down all 5 means some people are simply not going to apply because they don't think they have the skills you are looking for.

[garbon]

And the other issue is that even if your attitude is "3/5 is good", putting down all 5 means some people are simply not going to apply because they don't think they have the skills you are looking for.

That was th ebiggest one for me. Learning to apply for positions even if I didn't think I met all the criteria.

[Caliga]

Yeah, you don't need to eliminate yourself as a candidate.  Let the hiring company do that.

[merithyn]

And the other issue is that even if your attitude is "3/5 is good", putting down all 5 means some people are simply not going to apply because they don't think they have the skills you are looking for.

That was th ebiggest one for me. Learning to apply for positions even if I didn't think I met all the criteria.

Except that in the tech-world, in particular, computers do the initial scanning and if you don't hit all of the criteria, you're automatically rejected.

[Caliga]

To the best of my knowledge we don't use any sort of pre-screening software.  We get a lot of our resumes from recruiters and I know for a fact at least some of the agencies don't eliminate candidates that way.

[CountDeMoney]

Except that in the tech-world, in particular, computers do the initial scanning and if you don't hit all of the criteria, you're automatically rejected.

No shit.  I applied for a position that was practically a mirror image of my last job description;  at the very end, I had the 5 mandatory questions to answer, and filled out 4 of 5 with "Yes".  The automated rejection email thanked me for disqualifying myself.

Dear John,

Thank you for taking the time to apply for our opening for ***** in Washington.  Unfortunately, you have indicated that you do not meet the minimum qualifications for this particular position.

What was the wrong answer I gave?  My degree isn't in Emergency Management. 

[Caliga]

What was the wrong answer I gave?  My degree isn't in Emergency Management. 

That sounds like a job they don't intend to fill, like ever.

[merithyn]

To the best of my knowledge we don't use any sort of pre-screening software.  We get a lot of our resumes from recruiters and I know for a fact at least some of the agencies don't eliminate candidates that way.

That's a rare occurrence, unless it comes directly to the hiring manager from an inside source, in my experience.

[Caliga]

We don't have an HRIS system*, so that might explain it.


* ...yet.

[CountDeMoney]

What was the wrong answer I gave?  My degree isn't in Emergency Management. 

That sounds like a job they don't intend to fill, like ever.

Oh, I'm sure there's some unique snowflake out there with it.  Welcome to my world, where resumes go to die.

[CountDeMoney]

We don't have an HRIS system*, so that might explain it.


* ...yet.

Good luck with that when you get it.

The "out of the box creative thinking" companies claim they want is weeded out automatically. If you don't fill out a "required" box, your creative thinking is rejected. The employer gets only applicants who perfunctorily follow all the rules. Rules that don't work well at all.
That online form? It's connected to an online job description. This is where an employer throws in the kitchen sink. They ask for everything, and if you lack anything on the list, you're out. And the employer loses -- because while you may lack one or two "qualifications," you're a fast learner who will get rejected. Meanwhile, you could be learning the job while the employer complains of the "talent shortage" and the job goes begging while the board of directors wonders why profits are down.

[Phillip V]

Which States Have Highest Student-Loan Delinquencies?



http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/05/14/which-states-have-highest-student-loan-delinquencies/

[MadImmortalMan]

So, the states with the most student debtors are also the states with the lowest delinquency rates.

[Valmy]

So, the states with the most student debtors are also the states with the lowest delinquency rates.

I notice that...weird huh?