Gen. McKiernan fired, first to be dismissed from command since MacArthur

Started by jimmy olsen, May 12, 2009, 08:52:35 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2009, 07:23:13 PM
the disastrous Kosovo campaign

You mean the campaign we won without suffering a single fatality? :unsure:
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Quote from: Valmy on May 15, 2009, 08:25:15 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2009, 07:23:13 PM
the disastrous Kosovo campaign

You mean the campaign we won without suffering a single fatality? :unsure:
An F-117 was shot down though :ultra:
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Quote from: Valmy on May 15, 2009, 08:25:15 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2009, 07:23:13 PM
the disastrous Kosovo campaign

You mean the campaign we won without suffering a single fatality? :unsure:

It was thought the Serbs could be bombed into submission in a few days. It took a month and arm-twisting from the Russians.
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Hansmeister

Quote from: Valmy on May 15, 2009, 08:25:15 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2009, 07:23:13 PM
the disastrous Kosovo campaign

You mean the campaign we won without suffering a single fatality? :unsure:

Except that we didn't win.  We gave in to all four of the preconditions the Serbs had offered prior to the war, i.e., we would have gotten the same without the war.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Hansmeister on May 18, 2009, 06:33:58 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 15, 2009, 08:25:15 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 14, 2009, 07:23:13 PM
the disastrous Kosovo campaign

You mean the campaign we won without suffering a single fatality? :unsure:

Except that we didn't win.  We gave in to all four of the preconditions the Serbs had offered prior to the war, i.e., we would have gotten the same without the war.
And what preconditions were these?
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Hansmeister

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 18, 2009, 06:36:04 AMAnd what preconditions were these?
1. No referendum on independence within three years
2. No freedom of movement for NATO troops throughout the entirety of Yugoslavia
3. No removal of all yugoslavian authorities from Kosovo
4. Russians need to be part of the peacekeeping force

NATO surrendered on all four demands to bring that fiasco to an end, obviating the whole need for the war in the first place.  The Serbs had already conceded the loss of Kosovo to NATO control prior to the war so potraying that as a "victory" was all spin.  (It helps when the spokesman for the SecState is married to the chief foreign correspondent of CNN).