RATM, Dee Snider giving Paul Ryan shit about his iPod

Started by CountDeMoney, August 23, 2012, 02:05:18 PM

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Viking

A visionary leader willing to sacrifice his own personal good for the good of his people?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

garbon

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 24, 2012, 07:57:07 AM
Quote from: garbon on August 24, 2012, 07:44:46 AM
You're sounding like the spitting image of an angry teen.

Bah, shove it up your cocktail gown, Donna Summer.

I don't want anything that you're selling.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

ulmont

Quote from: dps on August 23, 2012, 11:36:32 PM
It's a little more complicated than that, especially when it comes to a cover.  Once a song is writen, recorded, and released, you can't stop someone else from releasing a cover (you can stop them from releasing a cover of a song that hasn't otherwise been released yet, but that wouldn't apply here).  So the campaign could have someone record a cover, and then use the cover--but they couldn't do so in a way that creates the impression that it's the Twisted Sister original.

To get the cover rights, you go to yet another agency for a mechanical license.

Neil

Quote from: Viking on August 24, 2012, 08:13:38 AM
A visionary leader willing to sacrifice his own personal good for the good of his people?
I think Siegebreaker means a leader who fundamentally misunderstands the nature of the state that he governs.  Gorbachev didn't realize that the entire Soviet Union was held together only by terror and the threat of force.  When that threat of force disappeared, so did the Soviet Union.

Mind you, Siegebreaker is pretty wrong.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

dps

Quote from: ulmont on August 24, 2012, 08:46:31 AM
Quote from: dps on August 23, 2012, 11:36:32 PM
It's a little more complicated than that, especially when it comes to a cover.  Once a song is writen, recorded, and released, you can't stop someone else from releasing a cover (you can stop them from releasing a cover of a song that hasn't otherwise been released yet, but that wouldn't apply here).  So the campaign could have someone record a cover, and then use the cover--but they couldn't do so in a way that creates the impression that it's the Twisted Sister original.

To get the cover rights, you go to yet another agency for a mechanical license.

Yeah, but that's just a matter of paying a fee.  The point was, Dee Snyder or any other member(s) of Twisted Sister can't stop anyone from covering their songs.

Viking

Quote from: Neil on August 24, 2012, 10:03:10 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 24, 2012, 08:13:38 AM
A visionary leader willing to sacrifice his own personal good for the good of his people?
I think Siegebreaker means a leader who fundamentally misunderstands the nature of the state that he governs.  Gorbachev didn't realize that the entire Soviet Union was held together only by terror and the threat of force.  When that threat of force disappeared, so did the Soviet Union.

Mind you, Siegebreaker is pretty wrong.

Gorbachev was trying to save the USSR from the totalitarian dictatorship who truly believed that openess and restructuring was the only way to save the USSR and the Party itself and only a reformed party could possibly gain the confidence of the people. He was trying to give the state back to the people.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

Quote from: Siege on August 24, 2012, 08:02:45 AM
Im now the great political revelation of the century.
After expending quite a amount of time thinking, I have come to an incredible realization:

Barack Hussein Obama is to the United States what Mikhail Gorbachev was to the Soviet Union!!!

Are you saying that Obama will be the greatest leader the US ever had?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 24, 2012, 06:33:06 AM
So fucking typical. 

Just like how everybody loves a passive Democratic Party when it comes to campaigns, curling up in the fetal position while they get assbanged by Willie Horton and Swiftboated over and over, you're all happy and content with lefties signing the same Lennon/Baez/Dylan bullshit, kumbayahing and trying to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.

But no, when the music punches you right back in the fucking face like an Obama campaign ad, you're all "Whaaaa, we don't like it, it's threatening and ickypoo."  Well, fuck all of you.  The movement's in motion with massive militant poetry, and the days of the left being your pliant punching bag like a beaten wife are over.

God, I hope so.  I've been saying for absolutely fucking years that there is no reason anymore not to be just as vicious and cruel as the right.

At least when the left attacks it's not nearly as often entirely made the fuck up.
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garbon

Quote from: Ideologue on August 24, 2012, 11:44:14 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 24, 2012, 06:33:06 AM
So fucking typical. 

Just like how everybody loves a passive Democratic Party when it comes to campaigns, curling up in the fetal position while they get assbanged by Willie Horton and Swiftboated over and over, you're all happy and content with lefties signing the same Lennon/Baez/Dylan bullshit, kumbayahing and trying to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony.

But no, when the music punches you right back in the fucking face like an Obama campaign ad, you're all "Whaaaa, we don't like it, it's threatening and ickypoo."  Well, fuck all of you.  The movement's in motion with massive militant poetry, and the days of the left being your pliant punching bag like a beaten wife are over.

God, I hope so.  I've been saying for absolutely fucking years that there is no reason anymore not to be just as vicious and cruel as the right.

At least when the left attacks it's not nearly as often entirely made the fuck up.

Be careful of becoming what you hate.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

I don't think I have to beware becoming a rich sociopath.  Do I?  Because that would be awesome.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Siege

I am so misunderstood here in Languish.
How come Languish have become so liberal?

America and the Soviet Union and completely diferent nations with completely oppoused ideology, my analogy is on the consequences of these leaders, not their intentions. Gorbachev destroyed a superpower, plain and simple, regardless of his motivation. Very great for us in the West, but all fucked up for the russians that BELIEVED in socialism.

Obama wants to transcedentaly downgrade America from the sole superpower to another average power sitting in a round table among the nations of the Earth. Obama wants to downgrade America, America's economy, America's Army, and America's power. He thinks the "wrongs" of colonization and capitalism (that evil word), have to be set right. He thinks this is for the best.

Now for the average American that believe in America as FOUNDED, this is a cataclism similar to the fall of the Soviet Union was for the commies.

Do you guys understand my analogy now?


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Neil

Quote from: Viking on August 24, 2012, 11:26:05 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 24, 2012, 10:03:10 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 24, 2012, 08:13:38 AM
A visionary leader willing to sacrifice his own personal good for the good of his people?
I think Siegebreaker means a leader who fundamentally misunderstands the nature of the state that he governs.  Gorbachev didn't realize that the entire Soviet Union was held together only by terror and the threat of force.  When that threat of force disappeared, so did the Soviet Union.

Mind you, Siegebreaker is pretty wrong.
Gorbachev was trying to save the USSR from the totalitarian dictatorship who truly believed that openess and restructuring was the only way to save the USSR and the Party itself and only a reformed party could possibly gain the confidence of the people. He was trying to give the state back to the people.
And that was the misunderstanding.  The entire point of the USSR was that for the vast majority of the member states, there were no benefits to the union, and that the only purpose it served was to maintain the imperial rule of Russia over assorted subject peoples.  As soon as there was an option for them not to be repressed by Russia, they took it.  Gorbachev thought that a nice mission statement could make people forget about the previous three centuries of Russian misrule, and that people who weren't Russian would ever be willing to trust a Russian.  Gorbachev made the mistake of thinking that Russians would accept being first among equals.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

derspiess

Quote from: Neil on August 24, 2012, 01:51:11 PM
And that was the misunderstanding.  The entire point of the USSR was that for the vast majority of the member states, there were no benefits to the union, and that the only purpose it served was to maintain the imperial rule of Russia over assorted subject peoples.  As soon as there was an option for them not to be repressed by Russia, they took it.  Gorbachev thought that a nice mission statement could make people forget about the previous three centuries of Russian misrule, and that people who weren't Russian would ever be willing to trust a Russian.  Gorbachev made the mistake of thinking that Russians would accept being first among equals.

Yeah, pretty much.  Looks like only Belarus and some fringe elements of the other republics were willing to subordinate themselves to Russia with Russians.

Though Russia did manage to poison the non-Russian republics by partly colonizing them.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Neil

Quote from: Siege on August 24, 2012, 01:49:04 PM
Obama wants to transcedentaly downgrade America from the sole superpower to another average power sitting in a round table among the nations of the Earth.
This already happened before Obama was elected.  Fourth-generation warfare blew the wheels off the idea of superpowers.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

derspiess

Quote from: Neil on August 24, 2012, 01:54:46 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 24, 2012, 01:49:04 PM
Obama wants to transcedentaly downgrade America from the sole superpower to another average power sitting in a round table among the nations of the Earth.
This already happened before Obama was elected.  Fourth-generation welfare blew the wheels off the idea of superpowers.

LOL FYP.

I actually read it that way on first glance.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall